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Old 12-17-2007 | 09:32 AM
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Wet/cold weather tire?ANYONE?

I posted a question about the Pirelli scorpion syncs but can anyone give a comment on a good wet/cold weather tire? Am I the only inclement weather rider? I was thinking of a dual sport tire but they are too small.
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Avon Storms were designed with wet weather riding in mind. They work pretty well in the dry too! I have a set on my Interceptor, and they some of the best tires I've ever ridden on.
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d204 sportmax!
you learn to ride!
Old 12-17-2007 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hawxter996
d204 sportmax!
you learn to ride!
I'd say using those tires you'd learn to crash... They are hard as stone in cold weather...

But if you wanna ride supermoto style, backing it into every corner they are juuust right...
Old 12-17-2007 | 12:19 PM
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I liked the D220 in the wet, and rode them down to about 30°F, without any problems. Didn't like the wear though.
Old 12-17-2007 | 12:25 PM
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avon St 45/46 or michelin pilot road.
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Originally Posted by Tweety
I'd say using those tires you'd learn to crash... They are hard as stone in cold weather...

But if you wanna ride supermoto style, backing it into every corner they are juuust right...
rode year round with them.
never had a problem.
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Originally Posted by hawxter996
rode year round with them.
never had a problem.
well they are terrible when it gets even a little wet out......... but I guess if you don't push the bike at all they will work just fine.......
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well i dont tiptoe.
just ride with common sense during inclimate weather.
Old 12-17-2007 | 01:22 PM
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I had my back tire get loose on me yesterday, but I think it was dirt on the road.. It was ~50F and I had been riding for over an hour at the time, and I got on the gas in a corner..

I like not having to worry about real cold weather here in AZ.
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Originally Posted by hawxter996
well i dont tiptoe.
just ride with common sense during inclimate weather.
Well, possibly it's a case of defenitions... I consider it "chilly" below ~50F

Below 32F it gets really fun... My limit for riding is about 0F... At that point most tires are rather slippery (and most likely the ground is covered with black ice anyway...)
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Originally Posted by Tweety
Well, possibly it's a case of defenitions... I consider it "chilly" below ~50F

Below 32F it gets really fun... My limit for riding is about 0F... At that point most tires are rather slippery (and most likely the ground is covered with black ice anyway...)
yeah ice is fun.
was riding my wife to work one morning,still dark.
rounded a corner and hit a sheet of ice that must of been 100'.
she didnt even notice the slide!
i felt the front wheel start sliding and just kept steady throttle.
rode out of it with no probs.
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Been there, done that...

Um, ice isn't what I'd call "fun"... but it's interesting I'd give you that... Usually I try to avoid riding when that starts... As in commutes and such... still needs to get my "fix" thoo... but with a pillion on ice?! You are a braver man than me... If I was lucky I'd break my neck on the ice... If I wasn't it would be a lot more painful...
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I laid down the old Rd350 with a passenger on hard packed snow right in front of a Pub with a roaring fire and quite good scotch once. It was a gentle let down-let go into a snow bank. No parts or persons were harmed.
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Originally Posted by happytrack44
I laid down the old Rd350 with a passenger on hard packed snow right in front of a Pub with a roaring fire and quite good scotch once. It was a gentle let down-let go into a snow bank. No parts or persons were harmed.
my snow crash was in front of a crowded transit bus.

poor bike never stood a chance.

it was a pos 600 katana, bus ran completely over it.

was not injured myself though,had a boss who
decided it was more important for me to show up
than wait out the storm in safety.
i was a casket builder at the time.
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Uh, guys, how about the tires? D220 seems like the best? Thanks for storytime tho'.
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Well I run Qualifiers but I'm in Ca so it's never cold....... so what do I know.....lol
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Pilot Road (2) or Avon storm or...
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Im a metzler fan.I usually run M-1's.I just put some Metzler road-tec's on to see if I could squeze some more millage out of them.Ive riden once on a wet road and felt very confident at fairly high speeds.I was king for the day.Temps don't get that low here,but a lower pressure in any tire (1-5 lbs) might help maintain a higher tire temp in a situation where speeds are lower and the road is colder.
Old 01-02-2008 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by smokinjoe73
I posted a question about the Pirelli Scorpion Syncs but can anyone give a comment on a good wet/cold weather tire? Am I the only inclement weather rider? I was thinking of a dual sport tire but they are too small.
Pirelli Scorpion Syncs are fantastic tyres. I ran them an my Ducati Multistrada 1000 and they gave awesome confidence in all conditions. Good enough for peg scraping in the dry, but never budging out of line in the wettest of Irish winters.

After the Scorpions I tried a pair of Diablos. They were awesome in the dry but not as good in the wet.
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I ran Pirelli Diablo Strada's last year,my first set of sport-touring tires. They worked great in the wet and they worked fine in spirited running when the temps were in the 90"s. I checked the softness of them with a tire durometer to compare them to the Bridgestone 014"s that i had ran the last 2 years and they were just as soft a compound,but there is 2mm deeper tread in the rear.I average about 10,000 mi. a season and was going thru 2 rears by the time the front was to the wear bars.The Strada"s went 7000 mi. on the first rear and 5000 mi. on the second rear before the front got to the wear bars.They should be fine for anything but a track day.Hope this helps.
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OK, so I just rode home from work in Manhattan to Brooklyn in an AMBIENT temp of 17 degrees (26mph wind). Thats the kind of riding I'm talking about.
Old 01-03-2008 | 11:52 AM
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That's pretty extreme my man,but I've done it too.So I'll refrain from judging your mental health.No tire will save you from snow and ice in my opionon.But any good sport/touring
tire should work well in water,More tread cuts.....Also have you ever checked your tires to see how soon they warm up, 1/2 mile,1 mile,2miles,never.I also request photographic
proof of above said adventures.
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No pics yet, but I made custom glove covers out of neoprene that look like lobster claws to conserve heat & limit surface area, also a columbia windbreaker shell over my armored leather, helmet halo, fog city, etc. certain stuff just isnt optional, you just cant get by without it. When it snows I have to shovel a 2 foot wide path to a main street (& be smooth over the Brooklyn bridge). Most streets are hollow with subways. It gets interesting.
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Smokin' you really ridin' in the snow up there??? I heard a story 'bout a guy ridin' a goldwing in NYC..... in 3 feet of snow..... when he pulled over a pedestrian asked him if he was crazy.... he just smiled and said. "I'm warmer then you" and rode off. I dunno, maybe it's true. I heard about crazies in Wisconson riding all year round. Putting ice spikes in their tires.... YIKES!
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Actually, my record is about 5 inches of fresh snow over the Brooklyn bridge. It was still blizzarding with about 2 car lenth visibility. I kept in the tire tracks, relaxed, & prayed, but made it home on 2 wheels. Now you kids dont try this at home, but in a jam, you can get home safe if you have faith.
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You should change your name to "smokinjoe the eskimo".Raingear has always been my cold weather choice for cuting the wind chill.If your speeds arn't to fast there might be some off shore, off brand tire maker that would have what your looking for.
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That was quick This guy has Chin Shin tires.Nothing is impossible.You should talk to your favorite bike shop,At this time of year they might have nothing better to do than help you.All tho they might be leary of mounting the tires,for fear of a lawsuit.
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Old 01-06-2008 | 09:29 AM
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Michelin C2T tires seem to warm up pretty well. I've ridden them and they don't slip at 11 deg. F. Been through a few mountain passes in slush and snow to no ill-effect.
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Originally Posted by doggerman
That was quick This guy has Chin Shin tires.Nothing is impossible.You should talk to your favorite bike shop,At this time of year they might have nothing better to do than help you.All tho they might be leary of mounting the tires,for fear of a lawsuit.

This is awesome! I would really like to try this do you happen to know what tyre sizes this guy is using?
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