Turned Off On Freeway, Oil Level Extra High, Won't Start No More, PLEASE PLEASE Help
#1
Turned Off On Freeway, Oil Level Extra High, Won't Start No More, PLEASE PLEASE Help
PLEASE HELPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!
i know its a lot but please please read and advise please.
HI well to start off i just bought the bike last sunday it is a 2003 honda hawk with only 3,446 miles and have now put about 300 miles on it.
This is my first bike.
3 days ago my GF droped my bike while on but stoped i was able to save all the plastics and honly had light scratches to the exaust, i turned off the bike while it was on the floor. 5 min before that i was on empty gas and when i pumped the gas im guessing i messed up the fuel gauage its not working now before my GF droped it.
That night i took her home and on the way back i gave it gas and did not want to speed up.
NOTE: [I WAS *&^%$#@ MAD]
Well the next morning i took her out [the bike] and she ran like a beauty.
Today while coming back from school on the freeway on 6th gear i tryed speeding and did not want to speed then i noticed that my oil light was on and decided to pull over thinking my bike turned off, sure enough she did. tryed starting it and did not.
i checked my oil level and its off the roof, covers the whole circle and looks like more. don;t know if this is helpfull or normal but i think it should be in the middle, the level of oil.
Could not started so i called someone to take it to my house.
I'm crying now [not really but super mad and sad] and need help please any advise.
PLEASE PLEASE HELP.
UPDATE: 1
Sorry
Hi well Im new to this and riding, this is my very first bike and have been in loved with it ever since i saw it [online].
Well i forgot some very important facts,
1] The bike had been sitting, garaged for a long time, before January 2008, was told that the owner would start it every so often or once a week.
2] Right before i got onto the freeway today and it turned off on me, 5 min before i had just toped her off with gas, so its on a full tank of gas.
UPDATE: 2
1] When i bought the bike the oil level was good and perfect
UPDATE: 3
1] Was advised by many here to check if the oil smelled like gas, and sure enough it did any advice?
i know its a lot but please please read and advise please.
HI well to start off i just bought the bike last sunday it is a 2003 honda hawk with only 3,446 miles and have now put about 300 miles on it.
This is my first bike.
3 days ago my GF droped my bike while on but stoped i was able to save all the plastics and honly had light scratches to the exaust, i turned off the bike while it was on the floor. 5 min before that i was on empty gas and when i pumped the gas im guessing i messed up the fuel gauage its not working now before my GF droped it.
That night i took her home and on the way back i gave it gas and did not want to speed up.
NOTE: [I WAS *&^%$#@ MAD]
Well the next morning i took her out [the bike] and she ran like a beauty.
Today while coming back from school on the freeway on 6th gear i tryed speeding and did not want to speed then i noticed that my oil light was on and decided to pull over thinking my bike turned off, sure enough she did. tryed starting it and did not.
i checked my oil level and its off the roof, covers the whole circle and looks like more. don;t know if this is helpfull or normal but i think it should be in the middle, the level of oil.
Could not started so i called someone to take it to my house.
I'm crying now [not really but super mad and sad] and need help please any advise.
PLEASE PLEASE HELP.
UPDATE: 1
Sorry
Hi well Im new to this and riding, this is my very first bike and have been in loved with it ever since i saw it [online].
Well i forgot some very important facts,
1] The bike had been sitting, garaged for a long time, before January 2008, was told that the owner would start it every so often or once a week.
2] Right before i got onto the freeway today and it turned off on me, 5 min before i had just toped her off with gas, so its on a full tank of gas.
UPDATE: 2
1] When i bought the bike the oil level was good and perfect
UPDATE: 3
1] Was advised by many here to check if the oil smelled like gas, and sure enough it did any advice?
Last edited by mcadena89; 06-02-2009 at 11:53 PM. Reason: forgot really important facts
#3
Well I'd start by changing the oil'filter to see whats going on there first. next, check all fuses. make sure you didn't hit the kill switch too. If the kill switch is tripped, the bike will still crank but will not start. was the bike overheating when all this happened?
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#4
If no smell of gas, drain some oil out until it's in the middle of the sight glass with the bike held upright (I sit on it and use an old rearview mirror).
The previous owner may have overfilled it causing oil to blow through the crankcase breather tubes into the air box. If that's the problem you will need to pull the tank (not recommended when full of gas) and clean out the air box and carbs. Notice where all the hoses go on the bottom of the tank, many owners have a problem reconnecting them wrong. Draw a picture.
The previous owner may have overfilled it causing oil to blow through the crankcase breather tubes into the air box. If that's the problem you will need to pull the tank (not recommended when full of gas) and clean out the air box and carbs. Notice where all the hoses go on the bottom of the tank, many owners have a problem reconnecting them wrong. Draw a picture.
#5
From the looks of it, well the smell of it, i took of the oil cap and put my nose right on it and sure enough does smell like gas, don't know if thats just what i want to think in order to get it repaired but yes it smell like gas? Thanks so much for the advise but any more?
#6
Well I'd start by changing the oil'filter to see whats going on there first. next, check all fuses. make sure you didn't hit the kill switch too. If the kill switch is tripped, the bike will still crank but will not start. was the bike overheating when all this happened?
More knowledgeable members than I will chime in soon. Why don't you introduce yourself in the mean time. Also, start searching with the search function. there is volumes of useful information here.
Welcome to the site, stick around and you will learn a lot, I have!
More knowledgeable members than I will chime in soon. Why don't you introduce yourself in the mean time. Also, start searching with the search function. there is volumes of useful information here.
Welcome to the site, stick around and you will learn a lot, I have!
#7
With the drop and the symptom, it sure sounds like what hawkrider already said... carbs.
Sounds like particles or debris in the bowls washed up into the float valve of at least one carb, and caused flooding that raised your oil level.
Do not run the bike on that oil.
Drain it out.
As mentioned, if it smells of gas, you know what happened.
This is a classic textbook scenario.
The cheap lucky method, ... drain the carbs by their drain screws, note the amount of gas that empties out of each carb.
Close the drains, tap on the carb bowls with a light metal object (12mm wrench)
and hope the flooding stopped.
Other wise carb disassembly will have to take place to clean out the float valves and anything else.
Sounds like particles or debris in the bowls washed up into the float valve of at least one carb, and caused flooding that raised your oil level.
Do not run the bike on that oil.
Drain it out.
As mentioned, if it smells of gas, you know what happened.
This is a classic textbook scenario.
The cheap lucky method, ... drain the carbs by their drain screws, note the amount of gas that empties out of each carb.
Close the drains, tap on the carb bowls with a light metal object (12mm wrench)
and hope the flooding stopped.
Other wise carb disassembly will have to take place to clean out the float valves and anything else.
Last edited by Circuit_Burner; 06-02-2009 at 11:31 PM.
#8
If no smell of gas, drain some oil out until it's in the middle of the sight glass with the bike held upright (I sit on it and use an old rearview mirror).
The previous owner may have overfilled it causing oil to blow through the crankcase breather tubes into the air box. If that's the problem you will need to pull the tank (not recommended when full of gas) and clean out the air box and carbs. Notice where all the hoses go on the bottom of the tank, many owners have a problem reconnecting them wrong. Draw a picture.
The previous owner may have overfilled it causing oil to blow through the crankcase breather tubes into the air box. If that's the problem you will need to pull the tank (not recommended when full of gas) and clean out the air box and carbs. Notice where all the hoses go on the bottom of the tank, many owners have a problem reconnecting them wrong. Draw a picture.
#9
With the drop and the symptom, it sure sounds like what hawkrider already said... carbs.
Sounds like particles or debris in the bowls washed up into the float valve of at least one carb, and caused flooding that raised your oil level.
Do not run the bike on that oil.
Drain it out.
As mentioned, if it smells of gas, you know what happened.
This is a classic textbook scenario.
The cheap lucky method, ... drain the carbs by their drain screws, note the amount of gas that empties out of each carb.
Close the drains, tap on the crab bowls with a light metal object (12mm wrench)
and hope the flooding stopped.
Other wise carb disassembly will have to take place to clean out the float valves and anything else.
Sounds like particles or debris in the bowls washed up into the float valve of at least one carb, and caused flooding that raised your oil level.
Do not run the bike on that oil.
Drain it out.
As mentioned, if it smells of gas, you know what happened.
This is a classic textbook scenario.
The cheap lucky method, ... drain the carbs by their drain screws, note the amount of gas that empties out of each carb.
Close the drains, tap on the crab bowls with a light metal object (12mm wrench)
and hope the flooding stopped.
Other wise carb disassembly will have to take place to clean out the float valves and anything else.
#10
You might want to lift the tank and pull the lid on the air box and take a look. Could be some of the excessive amount of oil/gas mix blew through the breather tube into the air box. That might explain the bike crapping out on the freeway and refusing to restart.
#11
I'll have to do this tomorrow during the light is on, thanks for your advise, question though, would this explain the rise of my level of oil?
#12
The gas only has one place to go, downhill.
So when your carbs are dumping gas into the engine,it overflows into the crank case cavity.
The crab bowls would be impossible for you to find , as I meant to type "carb bowls" lol
The drains are the little receded slotted brass screws at the bottom of each carburetor bowl.
Theres only one per carb.
Use a long flat blade driver that fits the slot solid, as they can be hard to open at 1st.
You only have to back them out a turn or two.
After draining the carb,dont tighten the screw as tight as it came out!
The tapping against the carb bowls is to dislodge the floats if stuck.
Hope that makes sense.
So when your carbs are dumping gas into the engine,it overflows into the crank case cavity.
The crab bowls would be impossible for you to find , as I meant to type "carb bowls" lol
The drains are the little receded slotted brass screws at the bottom of each carburetor bowl.
Theres only one per carb.
Use a long flat blade driver that fits the slot solid, as they can be hard to open at 1st.
You only have to back them out a turn or two.
After draining the carb,dont tighten the screw as tight as it came out!
The tapping against the carb bowls is to dislodge the floats if stuck.
Hope that makes sense.
Last edited by Circuit_Burner; 06-02-2009 at 11:40 PM.
#13
The gas only has one place to go, downhill.
So when your carbs are dumping gas into the engine,it overflows into the crank case cavity.
The crab bowls would be impossible for you to find , as I meant to type "carb bowls" lol
The drains are the little receded slotted brass screws at the bottom of each carburetor bowl.
Theres only one per carb.
Use a long flat blade driver that fits the slot solid, as they can be hard to open at 1st.
You only have to back them out a turn or two.
After draining the carb,dont tighten the screw as tight as it came out!
The tapping against the carb bowls is to dislodge the floats if stuck.
Hope that makes sense.
So when your carbs are dumping gas into the engine,it overflows into the crank case cavity.
The crab bowls would be impossible for you to find , as I meant to type "carb bowls" lol
The drains are the little receded slotted brass screws at the bottom of each carburetor bowl.
Theres only one per carb.
Use a long flat blade driver that fits the slot solid, as they can be hard to open at 1st.
You only have to back them out a turn or two.
After draining the carb,dont tighten the screw as tight as it came out!
The tapping against the carb bowls is to dislodge the floats if stuck.
Hope that makes sense.
#14
a good way to check for fuel in the oil. after you drain some out is to put a drop of it onto a brown paper sack and let it sit for fifteen min. if there is fuel in it you will see two rings the center one oil colored, and the outer ring will be much lighter. reason is fuel will leach farther out into the paper than the oil. I know it sounds dumb but it does actually work.
#15
It would be a symptom not the cause. I think Circuit Burner explained it but the cause is gas leaking into the cylinder when the engine is off, past the piston rings and into the crankcase.
Last edited by RK1; 06-03-2009 at 12:59 AM.
#16
Well I'd start by changing the oil'filter to see whats going on there first. next, check all fuses. make sure you didn't hit the kill switch too. If the kill switch is tripped, the bike will still crank but will not start. was the bike overheating when all this happened?
More knowledgeable members than I will chime in soon. Why don't you introduce yourself in the mean time. Also, start searching with the search function. there is volumes of useful information here.
Welcome to the site, stick around and you will learn a lot, I have!
More knowledgeable members than I will chime in soon. Why don't you introduce yourself in the mean time. Also, start searching with the search function. there is volumes of useful information here.
Welcome to the site, stick around and you will learn a lot, I have!
#17
I would use some seafoam to clean the carbs out. Fantastic stuff! Do you have any friends or family that are mechanically inclined to assist you? that would be a big help as the problem seems to be getting narrowed down. I feel Circuit Burner and RK1 have it nailed.
Last edited by j shizzy wizzy; 06-03-2009 at 01:08 AM.
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