Pls comment this chain kit !
#1
Pls comment this chain kit !
Does any of you have any knowledge about this kit :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA...1%7C240%3A1318
They describe this kit as if it's almost a revolution to any bike's performance ...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA...1%7C240%3A1318
They describe this kit as if it's almost a revolution to any bike's performance ...
#3
I would get this kit since when I got my bike the rear wheel wasn't straight so the chain and both sprokets got chewed up a bit. However, I'm not too keen on aluminum sprokets. It just doesn't seem like it would last very long. Anyone with experience with aluminum sprokets have any input on this? Please?
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Last edited by Malice; 05-01-2011 at 08:30 AM.
#4
There are some very dodgy "facts" in their sales pitch.
"Furthermore the Honda Gauge cluster is about 8-10% high from the factory settings. One more benefit of the kit we sell is that it actually makes the speedometer only 2% high as opposed to 8-10% too high"
Garbage.Raising the gearing ratio on the back will make the speedo error a lot higher, not reduce it. (I just changed to a 15t front sprocket , so I know)
"Stock Sprocket sizes are 16 tooth front 41 tooth rear which has a final drive ratio of 2.56. The optimum ratio is 15 tooth front 43 tooth rear which has a final drive ratio of 2.87"
"7) OPTIMUM ACCLERATION. By using the OPTIMUM gearing ratio you essentially lower the final drive ratio"
Huh? 2.56 to 2.87 is raising the ratio. They contradict themselves.
"With the stock gearing your bike has a top speed of about 175 (for example) But it's not at redline. With this setup the top speed is STILL 175 and it IS at redline"
175mph from a VTR? A very rough example which indicates to me that they have made up up everything they say.
Maybe I'm just old and cynical but this mob seem to be full of crap.
Caveat emptor......
"Furthermore the Honda Gauge cluster is about 8-10% high from the factory settings. One more benefit of the kit we sell is that it actually makes the speedometer only 2% high as opposed to 8-10% too high"
Garbage.Raising the gearing ratio on the back will make the speedo error a lot higher, not reduce it. (I just changed to a 15t front sprocket , so I know)
"Stock Sprocket sizes are 16 tooth front 41 tooth rear which has a final drive ratio of 2.56. The optimum ratio is 15 tooth front 43 tooth rear which has a final drive ratio of 2.87"
"7) OPTIMUM ACCLERATION. By using the OPTIMUM gearing ratio you essentially lower the final drive ratio"
Huh? 2.56 to 2.87 is raising the ratio. They contradict themselves.
"With the stock gearing your bike has a top speed of about 175 (for example) But it's not at redline. With this setup the top speed is STILL 175 and it IS at redline"
175mph from a VTR? A very rough example which indicates to me that they have made up up everything they say.
Maybe I'm just old and cynical but this mob seem to be full of crap.
Caveat emptor......
#5
Stock chain is a 530 this kit is a 520 lighter chain same kit I got. Less rotating mass. The stock sprockets will not work with this chain. I would recomend it. But I do track days so I also got the stock sprockets in 520. Now I can switch for Road America Long stright 1ml or so. jmho
#7
i've posted on both pages of this thread, with pictures.
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ad.php?t=14251
tim
#8
With that torquey v-twin I think strength trumps the weight savings. Unless you race, I would stick with the 530 chain.
Also. my totally un-biased opinion is that DID is the longest lasting brand of chain. I will never buy anything else.
And yes, there is no possible way you can use a smaller front & larger rear and maintain the same top end speed... that is completely illogical. Works just like your 10-speed bicycle.
I think the top speed listed for the Super Hawk is 150. I've only had mine to just over 140 (uncorrected). It wasn't topped out & might make it to 150, but 175? No frickin' way.
Also. my totally un-biased opinion is that DID is the longest lasting brand of chain. I will never buy anything else.
And yes, there is no possible way you can use a smaller front & larger rear and maintain the same top end speed... that is completely illogical. Works just like your 10-speed bicycle.
I think the top speed listed for the Super Hawk is 150. I've only had mine to just over 140 (uncorrected). It wasn't topped out & might make it to 150, but 175? No frickin' way.
Last edited by L8RGYZ; 04-20-2009 at 08:48 AM. Reason: x
#9
Denmark, I'm running 16/43 520 and love it! When I move over from 530 to the 520 setup I noticed less vibrations at speed right away it felt much more smooth... Not sure why and I wasn't expecting it, but the 520 setup rocks and I'd recommend it...let me know if you get it and if you get similar results...RC
#13
yep, that's crazy! I went to a local Cycle Gear store and bought the 520 sprockets and the strongest 520 chain they had...saved on shipping anyway
#14
I got this kit or similar(gold chain/blacksprocket) awhile back and I love it, love it love it!!
15/43/alum sprockets rock if you ride curvy roads mostly. It mitigates the need to shift and/or brake, and the acceleration is like a diff bike. If you ride straight thruways at higher speeds and travel long distances mostly, naturally that you will be running slightly higher rpm's. I don't believe the speedo is more accurate, but i don't know for sure. I like the lightness and the crisp response that is immediately evident and it is worth it even if you have to change the sprocket every couple years. If you don't want to pay the 75 ship cost, look at other outlets selling chains/sprockets and compare, because the changes are worthwhile IMO(I agree with their statements about being one of the best upgrades).
I thought the master link would use a clip, but they use rivets(good set-up) so make sure you have a compressing tool. Figure that into your cost because it is necessary to put the link together properly and there is too much at stake to take shortcuts here. You can cut the old chain off with regular shop tools like a grinder/cutting wheel or a dremel.
thanks, Nathan
15/43/alum sprockets rock if you ride curvy roads mostly. It mitigates the need to shift and/or brake, and the acceleration is like a diff bike. If you ride straight thruways at higher speeds and travel long distances mostly, naturally that you will be running slightly higher rpm's. I don't believe the speedo is more accurate, but i don't know for sure. I like the lightness and the crisp response that is immediately evident and it is worth it even if you have to change the sprocket every couple years. If you don't want to pay the 75 ship cost, look at other outlets selling chains/sprockets and compare, because the changes are worthwhile IMO(I agree with their statements about being one of the best upgrades).
I thought the master link would use a clip, but they use rivets(good set-up) so make sure you have a compressing tool. Figure that into your cost because it is necessary to put the link together properly and there is too much at stake to take shortcuts here. You can cut the old chain off with regular shop tools like a grinder/cutting wheel or a dremel.
thanks, Nathan
#15
I got this kit or similar(gold chain/blacksprocket) awhile back and I love it, love it love it!!
15/43/alum sprockets rock if you ride curvy roads mostly. It mitigates the need to shift and/or brake, and the acceleration is like a diff bike. If you ride straight thruways at higher speeds and travel long distances mostly, naturally that you will be running slightly higher rpm's. I don't believe the speedo is more accurate, but i don't know for sure. I like the lightness and the crisp response that is immediately evident and it is worth it even if you have to change the sprocket every couple years. If you don't want to pay the 75 ship cost, look at other outlets selling chains/sprockets and compare, because the changes are worthwhile IMO(I agree with their statements about being one of the best upgrades).
I thought the master link would use a clip, but they use rivets(good set-up) so make sure you have a compressing tool. Figure that into your cost because it is necessary to put the link together properly and there is too much at stake to take shortcuts here. You can cut the old chain off with regular shop tools like a grinder/cutting wheel or a dremel.
thanks, Nathan
15/43/alum sprockets rock if you ride curvy roads mostly. It mitigates the need to shift and/or brake, and the acceleration is like a diff bike. If you ride straight thruways at higher speeds and travel long distances mostly, naturally that you will be running slightly higher rpm's. I don't believe the speedo is more accurate, but i don't know for sure. I like the lightness and the crisp response that is immediately evident and it is worth it even if you have to change the sprocket every couple years. If you don't want to pay the 75 ship cost, look at other outlets selling chains/sprockets and compare, because the changes are worthwhile IMO(I agree with their statements about being one of the best upgrades).
I thought the master link would use a clip, but they use rivets(good set-up) so make sure you have a compressing tool. Figure that into your cost because it is necessary to put the link together properly and there is too much at stake to take shortcuts here. You can cut the old chain off with regular shop tools like a grinder/cutting wheel or a dremel.
thanks, Nathan
I would like to have this kit - But I cant find it on european sites ... The only similar setup I can find is with the Supersprox sprockets, so I'll have a go with that setup instead .. Don't care much either about replacing the kit more often, I like to have a smooth kit mounted all the time anyhow
#16
[QUOTE=VTRDenmark;212231]Thanks Nath
I would like to have this kit - But I cant find it on european sites ... The only similar setup I can find is with the Supersprox sprockets, so I'll have a go with that setup instead .. Don't care much either about replacing the kit more often, I like to have a smooth kit mounted all the time anyhow [/QUOT
afam sprockets are made in france. the below site has the sprockets and chain you need, and there are likely others on your side. they charge 39.00 to ship to europe. goggle afam sprockets and see what you get.
http://www.drivesystemsusa.com/p/580...sprocket-.html
I would like to have this kit - But I cant find it on european sites ... The only similar setup I can find is with the Supersprox sprockets, so I'll have a go with that setup instead .. Don't care much either about replacing the kit more often, I like to have a smooth kit mounted all the time anyhow [/QUOT
afam sprockets are made in france. the below site has the sprockets and chain you need, and there are likely others on your side. they charge 39.00 to ship to europe. goggle afam sprockets and see what you get.
http://www.drivesystemsusa.com/p/580...sprocket-.html
Last edited by nath981; 04-21-2009 at 06:10 AM.
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