This is why I said "Dependig on the year and mods, of course".

 

You need to do some SERIOUS mods to a VTR for it to get anywhere near the output of a stock GSX-R (and even then, you may get close on the torque but the higher revving Zook will still blow it away in hp, regardless of the year you choose).... I love my VTR but to say it comes close to a GSX-R power-wise is delusional....

 

Actually, it seems that I need to be corrected on this....
Turns out that the last time that the SuperHawk beat the Gixxer 1000 was in 1997 and they were pretty much even. So, I apologize for the misleading information. So, in short.... I don't know why your clutch discs worked for the Gixxer and not for the SuperHawk. Maybe it has something to do with the weight ratio. Does the Gixxer have a hydrolic clutch or a Cable Clutch?

 

Agreed. I just checked. BUT, I do have 118 hp at the rear wheel with 83 ft lbs of torque, according to the dyno that I ran last year. Not bad, anyways.

 

if those numbers are for your VTR, you either have a lot of mods, or a very optimistic dyno....

 

there was no gsxr 1000 in 97

 

also cable clutch

 

Alright, now I'm just feeling dumb. Again, you are right. It was the 1100, not the 1,000.

GSX-R 1100 1997 (U) Overall Length: 2 130 mm (83.9 in) Overall Width: 755 mm (29.7 in) Overall Height: 1 190 mm (46.9 in) Seat Height: 815 mm (32.1 in) Wheelbase: 1 485 mm (58.5 in) Ground Clearance: 130 mm (5.1 in) Dry Weight: 221 kg (487 lb) Engine type: 1 074 cc Water-cooled inline-four, DOHC, TSCC, 16 valves. 156 hp (117 kW). Measured (USA): 122.6 bhp (91 kW)/ 9.250 rpm, 75.0 ft·lbf/ 7,000 rpm

 

I've done a lot to my bike. I documented the whole process, so I'll probably put that in the mod section later on, if you are interested.

 

It's weird how some bikes warrant a hydro clutch and some don't. Obviously power is not the issue. Any thoughts?

 

the type of disengagement mechanism has absolutely nothing to do with the clutch`s ability to handle power. For example, while many Victory cruisers use a cable-actuated clutch, others use hydraulic, and owners can "upgrade" a cable unit to a hyd system (kit sold in accessory catalogue), the only difference being the means of transmitting the motion to the clutch, the plates, springs,... are exactly the same.

 

Yes, I understand that. But, I was uner the impression that the reason you put a hydro clutch on a bike is because of the high strength of the springs. The reason that the srpings might be so strong is, of course cuz' they need to be able to hold the discs together more tightly due to more power. Thoughts?

 

and btw, would love to know what you did to your bike to get those kinds of numbers (especially the torque, quite impressive)

 

Yeah, It took me the whole winter, but it was well worth it. I took pictures of the whole process and wrote a little mini-story about it. When I took it to the dyno, I was very happy. I've always wanted an RC-51, but the ergos were just not good for me, so i wanted the next best thing, and now with the powe that I have, it feels alot closer.

 

as the curiosity is killing me, could you post just a quick overview of what you did? I am in search of similar numbers (my last dyno run had me making 113 hp and 71 lb-ft although airbox box mods carried out since then should have me slightly over 115 hp and 73 lb-ft, based on the dyno results I had obtained previously with the same mods). This, of course, is on a bike with over 75,000 miles on teh odometer. I will be freshening up the engine with OS JE pistons in the foreseeable future and hope to get up to @ 122hp and 80 lb-ft. I am intrigued at your 83 lb-ft, however......

 

^^ So if you got this written up, hurry up already and post it! There are guys here that would trade their GF or wife for 83 ft-lbs (maybe even buy untested velocity stacks? )

 

of course some of us have tested and proven stacks and are very happy with them BTW....

 

Just pokin at you. If that Doc Honda fellow gets up and running I'll likely be near the front of the line. Course then i'll have to get a Flo Commander too...

 

It`s all good Am curious to see how one gets 83 lb-ft out of a VTR though (although I seem to recall Shayne`s buddy getting similar numbers with his M4 full system)...