Carb set up
#63
#64
Nice thread
Until now, I never checked the insides of the carburators, but I found out that all jets are stock (178/175 main, 45S pilot). That's where my question comes in: Is there any difference between pilot jet 45 and 45S (and 48 and 48S)?
Until now, I never checked the insides of the carburators, but I found out that all jets are stock (178/175 main, 45S pilot). That's where my question comes in: Is there any difference between pilot jet 45 and 45S (and 48 and 48S)?
Last edited by Tiez; 03-14-2011 at 12:09 PM.
#67
i fitted a dj kit to mine with a bmc filter, drilled the slides & fitted the lighter diaphragm springs supplied in the kit.
result??? it ran like a bag of crap lol.
the slides were lifting way too early, meaning it was coming on the main jet at like 4500 rpm when it should just be lifting and still on the needles.
the result on the road felt wierd, like it was bogging down but taking off like mad once it hit 7k.
as i'd just fitted different cams, i thought that was the cause until i put it on a dyno, then the cause became obvious.
i refitted a new set of eom diaphragm springs and filled the hole in the slides by superglueing a small piece of o ring in the hole.
currently im running 185 / 190 mains with 50 pilots and it runs great!
just to say really, get a fuelling run done before you make adjustments.
result??? it ran like a bag of crap lol.
the slides were lifting way too early, meaning it was coming on the main jet at like 4500 rpm when it should just be lifting and still on the needles.
the result on the road felt wierd, like it was bogging down but taking off like mad once it hit 7k.
as i'd just fitted different cams, i thought that was the cause until i put it on a dyno, then the cause became obvious.
i refitted a new set of eom diaphragm springs and filled the hole in the slides by superglueing a small piece of o ring in the hole.
currently im running 185 / 190 mains with 50 pilots and it runs great!
just to say really, get a fuelling run done before you make adjustments.
#68
After fitting the 48 pilot jets and shimming the needles, my bike is still running lean @higher rpm. Now I didn't really pay attention when removing and reinstalling the (K&N) air filter, but today I spotted the following (rotten quality picture ):
That's different from 7moore7's pics, where the top right and bottom left segments are covered by foam (or something?), except of course for the holes that are connected with the two hoses. Could that make my bike get too much air??
That's different from 7moore7's pics, where the top right and bottom left segments are covered by foam (or something?), except of course for the holes that are connected with the two hoses. Could that make my bike get too much air??
#69
That K&N filter will have MUCH more effect on airflow than those little breather hose holes. A stock filter is more restrictive and as a general rule easier to tune on the VTR. The foam covers are just filters, order new ones when you get the chance.
#70
As 7moore7 has pointed out, "the top right and bottom left segments are covered by foam [filters]" and it's important to replace the missing items. However, if you continue to use the K+N filter, the small foam filters will be sucked into the motor. The K+N filter requires separate covers that keep the foam filters where they ought to be. The stock filter and the BMC street filter don't require separate covers. So, if you're going to continue to use the K+N, get the covers.
#71
Thanks!
Nice, I already found the needed parts of foam and the covers What happened? I bought my bike with the K&N filter already in place, but replaced it with the stock filter. Some time ago, when I brought my Firestorm to a local bikestore for some maintenance, they thought it was a good idea to put the K&N in again. So I brought them the filter element, but forgot all about the covers!
So my bad, but also not very alert of the mechanic who placed the filter.
Nice, I already found the needed parts of foam and the covers What happened? I bought my bike with the K&N filter already in place, but replaced it with the stock filter. Some time ago, when I brought my Firestorm to a local bikestore for some maintenance, they thought it was a good idea to put the K&N in again. So I brought them the filter element, but forgot all about the covers!
So my bad, but also not very alert of the mechanic who placed the filter.
Last edited by Tiez; 04-04-2011 at 02:07 PM.
#72
I just performed slide mod, shimed needles and installed #48 pilot jets on my 04 and still have a large hole in powerband. Right around 3k-5k rpm hesitates and all but dies performance wise. I have d&d pipes and a k&n Any ideas???
#73
Yes... Combine K&N filter with lighterfluid and a match...
#75
#76
Back in about 2005 we had a customer bring a late model Mustang V8 into the school shop for diagnosis, due to a "check engine" light. The code indicated an O2 sensor problem. Long story short, on the 3rd visit, unable to solve the problem, I called the Ford dealer for technical assistance. When I told him that it had a K&N, he said, "When a car comes into the dealer with a K&N, we tell them we won't work on it unless they let us put a stock air filter and housing back on it".
As it turned out, the oil from the K&N had contaminated the MAF sensor, tricking the ECM into thinking less air was entering the intake. Of course that wouldn't affect a Superhawk, but I've never been a fan of K&N's either. Plus most people that have one don't maintain it properly.
As it turned out, the oil from the K&N had contaminated the MAF sensor, tricking the ECM into thinking less air was entering the intake. Of course that wouldn't affect a Superhawk, but I've never been a fan of K&N's either. Plus most people that have one don't maintain it properly.
#77
Had a question about shims i installed two #4 washers in rear carb leaving stock washer as well.As for the front i removed the stock shim and added two #4 washers. So thats 3 shims in back and 2 shims up front. did i perform this properly?
#78
#81
I just realized I too have 45s jets installed, and in my old HRC RC31 jet kit I have two Keihin 45, no "s". They appear to be identical with the only difference being the "s". From your explanation I assume they're just from different years or production runs? Just curious if you know.
Mike
Anyone?
Mike
Anyone?
Last edited by afm528; 04-13-2011 at 01:11 AM. Reason: bump
#82
Still working on the set-up I was wondering: when you say 'start with the pilot screw set at 2 1\4 turns' does that mean 2 1/4 x 360 degrees? or 2 1/4 x 180 degrees?
This popped my mind when I was overthinking if I didn't make any translation mistakes (in Dutch we use 'slag' for 'turn' and a 'slag' is 360 degrees...)
Well, just to make sure..
This popped my mind when I was overthinking if I didn't make any translation mistakes (in Dutch we use 'slag' for 'turn' and a 'slag' is 360 degrees...)
Well, just to make sure..
#83
Still working on the set-up I was wondering: when you say 'start with the pilot screw set at 2 1\4 turns' does that mean 2 1/4 x 360 degrees? or 2 1/4 x 180 degrees?
This popped my mind when I was overthinking if I didn't make any translation mistakes (in Dutch we use 'slag' for 'turn' and a 'slag' is 360 degrees...)
Well, just to make sure..
This popped my mind when I was overthinking if I didn't make any translation mistakes (in Dutch we use 'slag' for 'turn' and a 'slag' is 360 degrees...)
Well, just to make sure..
#87
Got a '98 VTR with stock carbs.
Installed a set of Yoshimura cans. Bike spits and coughs off of idle when cold started.
Ordered a set of 48 pilots. Looking for some #4 washers.
Will advise on the outcome shortly.
Miguel
Installed a set of Yoshimura cans. Bike spits and coughs off of idle when cold started.
Ordered a set of 48 pilots. Looking for some #4 washers.
Will advise on the outcome shortly.
Miguel
#88
Here's where I found a good price on pilots:
http://www.hollisterhonda.com/eshopp...PILOT_JETS.htm
I think this site came recommended via 8541Hawk too.
#48 pilot jets are part number 46-9705
http://www.hollisterhonda.com/eshopp...PILOT_JETS.htm
I think this site came recommended via 8541Hawk too.
#48 pilot jets are part number 46-9705
#89
Send me your order info and contact info and I'll get you taken care of.
#90
Well you're one of the guys that is close enough to just bring it by if you have any issues after setting them up.....