I know what you mean, I drove a truck in the US for 3 years.
A logger West of Albany was going to have lunch and told me that it will be after dinner, even tough I was smiling and said no probs, he took me for lunch and I had to fight and lost to pay the bill, him knowing the waitress.
Awesome people are everywhere, it just takes one idiot to make you forget 100 of them since these come out more annoyingly.

I visited a Museum on weapons in Italy and one thing that struck me is the dedication that humans have to invent better ways to kill each others.
There something very bad in the human nature that is controlled by education and a good life, so it sleeps deeply.
I believe that this violence is buried in every single of us (humans at least), it just happens everywhere, given the proper circumstances, refering to all wars and massacers.
War is then the consequence of this and no one can claim he's right. He can only be right to his people, but dead wrong for the other.


Oh yeah to stay on topic, guns freak me out

 

Sure, most people are capable of violence, but let's be clear;

There are different categories of violence.

There is defensive violence which is moral and justified.

There is unprovoked and criminal violence which is neither.

Happily the vast majority of people are unwilling to engage in the later.

But because some people are, the rest of us have a right to be armed.

I would argue in that the case of adult men in particular it is more than a right. It is a duty and moral obligation to be ready willing and able to engage in defensive violence. Ready and able means being armed.

Guns don't freak me out at all but evil, violent people do.

Being armed means they freak me out a lot less than they would otherwise.

Most of the people I know in my very diverse neighborhood own guns. It doesn't freak me out, it comforts me.

I trust my friends and neighbors more than the government and police even when they are doing their best.

We have a saying down here;

"When seconds count, the police are minutes away."

 

Despite my dislike for fire arms, I have to concede that to some level you are right, as I said I worked in the US and in some places where I was visiting, I felt small, very small, one night I was so freaked out, I realized that I walked too far in search of food and now wish to be the hell out of here, two guys rammed me with their car, their chicks got pissy (prob saved my ***), I stepped away and smiled like if it was a joke and walked away (running stimulate predators). That was in Chessapeake VA
Another was in Delaware, happened in Ohio.
But here a baseball bat is way enough to keep intruders away, usually just mean spoiled kids

 

A glimpse into the mentality is to travel with a bunch of weapons development engineers. I wouldn't call it evil, I wouldn't call it bad. It's at least creative.

I think as men the smartest way to be successful as a person and a businessman is to always respect others - to a limit. For me trust is granted - even to a stranger until I detect the trust is being violated.

From the beginning, if you make it plain to the person you are interacting with that while this trust is granted - once damaged or destroyed - nothing will ever be the same.

THEN:

In the legal business they call it recourse. In the business world you buy them and then shut them down. When all else fails, everybody draws their weapons and we talk in very loud voices.

Enter the guys with "the better idea."

I wouldn't trade my years running a camera for these guys for almost anything else I have done with my life. But it was a "Vizene" moment (14 yrs).

I own guns that are designed, built and shot for only tearing up targets. I own others that are amongst other groups that are only used for the same recreation.

To some measure these guys are just like me. Instead of going to the range once a month, these guys go to the range every 18 months to 2 yrs. They don't get to shoot up the sky trying to hit the clay bird - they get one shot.

The entire process is one of respect and enforcing it when required. These guys are just trying to do it better.

So far, so good. Real good!

 

Hi,, find nothing wrong with the bloke advertising his firearm for sale,, has been a long time member to this site from wat i understand, so let him advertise,, granted this is an american site myself been from Ireland, understand ur rite to bare arms, i myself am a firearm holder,, and with that comes great responsibilty,,, so live and let live, his advertising has no bearing on anybody elses day,, hope he gets a good price for it.
as for defending ur estate,,, well,,, goes without saying our country is in the process of changing the law regarding use of force,,, sooner the better,,, ur home is ur castle,, maybe the only place that anybody feels really safe,, so yes if it came to dropping an intruder,, to having ur family terrorised,, drop the ******,,, ,

 

...noob is noob...


OP in question has contributed massively, noob has not. Would buy if able. End of story.