Does anyone dragrace there Hawk?
10-23-2007 | 12:53 PM
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Does anyone dragrace there Hawk?
Was wondering if anyone dragraces there bike? What times and speed are you doing through tthe 1/8 mile and the 1/4 mile?
I ran a 7.6@98mph with no ride time on the bike, i got it on Saturday and went to the track on Sunday. Front wheel lifts every time through first and into second gear.
I ran a 7.6@98mph with no ride time on the bike, i got it on Saturday and went to the track on Sunday. Front wheel lifts every time through first and into second gear.
10-23-2007 | 09:16 PM
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I used to do the 1/8 a few years ago and my best was 7.52 @ 101.
Really hard to launch with no wheelie bar. I found that gently rolling out of the gate and going full power AFTER the clutch was fully released was the key to the best times. A second gear wheelie half way down the track was exciting to do too.
I'm gonna try to attach a pic of me beating a Harley (that did have wheelie bars)
Really hard to launch with no wheelie bar. I found that gently rolling out of the gate and going full power AFTER the clutch was fully released was the key to the best times. A second gear wheelie half way down the track was exciting to do too.
I'm gonna try to attach a pic of me beating a Harley (that did have wheelie bars)
10-24-2007 | 10:00 AM
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LMAO.. that looks just like me going down the track..
yeah, thats what i had to do, ease off the clutch into the roll and try to ease into the throttle.. about halfway through first the front raised up had to let off and then back on it into second and still raised up.. it was great to here people saying nice wheelie to me.. i was saying to them, well i'm not trying to do it..
good pic man..
yeah, thats what i had to do, ease off the clutch into the roll and try to ease into the throttle.. about halfway through first the front raised up had to let off and then back on it into second and still raised up.. it was great to here people saying nice wheelie to me.. i was saying to them, well i'm not trying to do it..
good pic man..
10-24-2007 | 10:03 AM
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here is a video of me racing a R6 thats lowered.. i believe that this is my best run.. i bet him the 2 times we raced..
http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i9...t=100_1535.flv
http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i9...t=100_1535.flv
10-24-2007 | 09:34 PM
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Nice video.
Check out my onboard video on my other Superhawk at CA Speedway AMA Track.
http://media.putfile.com/Superhawk-2-at-CA-Speedway
Check out my onboard video on my other Superhawk at CA Speedway AMA Track.
http://media.putfile.com/Superhawk-2-at-CA-Speedway
10-25-2007 | 07:32 PM
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02-15-2008 | 05:30 AM
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http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i9...t=100_1535.flv
only 1 video of me racing at the track, hopefully i will have more this weekend from Breakaway, on sunday
only 1 video of me racing at the track, hopefully i will have more this weekend from Breakaway, on sunday
11-06-2008 | 10:24 AM
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well going to be working on a side project to get my superhawk ready for the dragstrip next season. I'll be starting a thread in the near future with the build. i've been big into drag racing until i got the hawk. the plan is to keep a street setup and then have a complete bolt on weekend drag race setup. more to come as parts get collected.
11-06-2008 | 10:52 AM
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I pulled off a 7.4 the one time I took my Shawk to the track. thought it was slow but judging by other times im seeing here i guess its not too bad.
The hawk really needs to be lowered and/or stretched to do well at the strip IMO, if you could keep the front down it would be capable of some good times i think.
The hawk really needs to be lowered and/or stretched to do well at the strip IMO, if you could keep the front down it would be capable of some good times i think.
11-06-2008 | 01:19 PM
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01-24-2010 | 02:06 PM
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Their –pronoun
1. a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: their home; their rights as citizens, their superhawk.
There –adverb
1. in or at that place (opposed to here ): She is over there now.
Edit: just bugged me for some reason.. Normally I don't care about this kind of thing.
1. a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: their home; their rights as citizens, their superhawk.
There –adverb
1. in or at that place (opposed to here ): She is over there now.
Edit: just bugged me for some reason.. Normally I don't care about this kind of thing.
01-24-2010 | 02:11 PM
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Their –pronoun
1. a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: their home; their rights as citizens, their superhawk.
There –adverb
1. in or at that place (opposed to here ): She is over there now.
Edit: just bugged me for some reason.. Normally I don't care about this kind of thing.
1. a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: their home; their rights as citizens, their superhawk.
There –adverb
1. in or at that place (opposed to here ): She is over there now.
Edit: just bugged me for some reason.. Normally I don't care about this kind of thing.
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01-24-2010 | 02:17 PM
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Yeah it's harder than it looks. Best time I've ever seen was I think a 10.83 from motorcycle.com back when it first came out. Otherwise right around 11 flat to low 11's. Seems to test a little slower as the years go by like most models that are around a few years.
01-27-2010 | 09:58 PM
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whats the average trap speed for a 1/4 mile pass on these? im seeing anywhere from 128ish to the low 130's. and how much of an improvement is found with doing some go fast mods like a mild re gear. i know with a car once youre running that fast a simple few hp wont do anything but with a bike weighing so much less will a few hp really be noticable at the strip?
01-27-2010 | 10:34 PM
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scince i live about 15 mins from Atco raceway ive run it a couple times 12.00 was my fastest time launch is terrible! i had to feather out the clutch, then goose it when the clutch is released to not flip it. if you want to seriously drag race a motor cycle youre better off with a different bike... the complete ride of the bike will be totally different and the twisties are waaaaaaay to fun to give up (or even loose some of imho). i streched it 3 inches and i hated it maybe if you like that sort of thing but to each his own i tried it before i gave up... now ill double the ride and go to millville speedway for the road coarse.
01-28-2010 | 10:43 AM
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whats the average trap speed for a 1/4 mile pass on these? im seeing anywhere from 128ish to the low 130's. and how much of an improvement is found with doing some go fast mods like a mild re gear. i know with a car once youre running that fast a simple few hp wont do anything but with a bike weighing so much less will a few hp really be noticable at the strip?
If you are a really consistant drag racer, a few hp will make a significant difference. I'm guessing you haven't been drag racing the hawk very much though so no, a few hp are not going to affect your Trap Speed or ET very much. Practice and mastering the bike will do far more than 5-10 hp.
01-28-2010 | 02:52 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more. Practice makes perfect. I had a fwd car with a built motor that was turbocharged and on my street tires I was able to still outlaunch just about every rwd icame across. But that was practice and a lot of street racing. Lol. With my determination and ability to adapt I don't see it taking long for me to get good at launching the bike. I have launched it a few times against friends and did quite well. I found it takes a lower rpm launch. About 3500. Get the clutch out as fast and smooth as I can and roll into the throttle hard enough to go but keeping the front down. But I find dragging out the clutch too long creates some issues and launching it high either breaks traction or pulls the wheel. I'm basically launching it like I used to launch my car. One thing I have a hard time with is the low trap speed. Maybe its an altitude thing but I thought these things trapped closer to 130. Hell the cbr600 traps just over 130 I believe and from a hiway speed roll I pull my buddies everytime. Same with an 05 vfr800 with pipes and a 2010 triumph daytona 675. My drag racing background tells me that if those bikes are trapping around or over 130 mph then if I'm able to get away from them top end I should be up there. But being a torquey twin and the hydro clutch I'm sure a lot of that potential top end speed is lost trying to launch the bike.
Trap speed depends on the rider. Most of the times posted above are in the mid 11s @ about 120-125. If you could hit 130 you are probably one of the faster superhawk draggers out there.
If you are a really consistant drag racer, a few hp will make a significant difference. I'm guessing you haven't been drag racing the hawk very much though so no, a few hp are not going to affect your Trap Speed or ET very much. Practice and mastering the bike will do far more than 5-10 hp.
If you are a really consistant drag racer, a few hp will make a significant difference. I'm guessing you haven't been drag racing the hawk very much though so no, a few hp are not going to affect your Trap Speed or ET very much. Practice and mastering the bike will do far more than 5-10 hp.
01-28-2010 | 07:36 PM
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The start is the whole story with the superhawk. i don't know what the 60' times are for the above posters...but mid 7s in the 1/8 don't speak well for the 60.
This bike should easily be capable of cutting a 1.7s 60' with a decent drag racer. I would guess that'd allow for a 7.1ish 1/8 and could possibly break into the 10s which would mean a trap speed of right around 130. Definitely gotta launch really good and hit your shifts though.
newer 600s are capable of 10.6ish 1/4 miles out of the box nowadays... that takes some MAJOR clutchwork though.
I have never raced the hawk... but I did take my gixxer 750 and 1000 to the strip quite a few times though. I never got good at the 1000, but did manage a 10.7 a few times. Its funny, i hit a 10.7 at 123 once and a 10.7 at 135 another time... That means that i did really good off the start on that first run and really good on the back end for the last run... Why i couldnt put the two together i dont know.
I am anxious to take the hawk to the strip though. I hear 11.5 and higher and it makes me wanna cut an 11.0. I just gotta watch that 1st gear torque though. It really POURS on at about 3500 cuz of the tuning...but i think i could get an 11.0. Being 240 with gear on doesnt help though haha. I think my best trap speed would be about 125. couple more months and i'll find out.
With all this talk i'll probably hit a 13.4 @ 90
This bike should easily be capable of cutting a 1.7s 60' with a decent drag racer. I would guess that'd allow for a 7.1ish 1/8 and could possibly break into the 10s which would mean a trap speed of right around 130. Definitely gotta launch really good and hit your shifts though.
newer 600s are capable of 10.6ish 1/4 miles out of the box nowadays... that takes some MAJOR clutchwork though.
I have never raced the hawk... but I did take my gixxer 750 and 1000 to the strip quite a few times though. I never got good at the 1000, but did manage a 10.7 a few times. Its funny, i hit a 10.7 at 123 once and a 10.7 at 135 another time... That means that i did really good off the start on that first run and really good on the back end for the last run... Why i couldnt put the two together i dont know.
I am anxious to take the hawk to the strip though. I hear 11.5 and higher and it makes me wanna cut an 11.0. I just gotta watch that 1st gear torque though. It really POURS on at about 3500 cuz of the tuning...but i think i could get an 11.0. Being 240 with gear on doesnt help though haha. I think my best trap speed would be about 125. couple more months and i'll find out.
With all this talk i'll probably hit a 13.4 @ 90
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01-29-2010 | 05:36 AM
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a 1.7 short time really isnt great for a bike, im pressur sure it should be in the 1.2 range with a good rider. hell a 1.7 is rwd car on a good tire times, i used to cut 2.0 in my fwd car on street tires. i guess this thing wont really ever be great at the drag strip with the way its setup. id be more than happy with mid 11's too. ill probably go towards the end of the summer and see what i can squeeze out of her 
ive read somewhere about strapping down the front end but havent been able to find more info on it, anyone have any insight on that?
ive read somewhere about strapping down the front end but havent been able to find more info on it, anyone have any insight on that?The start is the whole story with the superhawk. i don't know what the 60' times are for the above posters...but mid 7s in the 1/8 don't speak well for the 60.
This bike should easily be capable of cutting a 1.7s 60' with a decent drag racer. I would guess that'd allow for a 7.1ish 1/8 and could possibly break into the 10s which would mean a trap speed of right around 130. Definitely gotta launch really good and hit your shifts though.
newer 600s are capable of 10.6ish 1/4 miles out of the box nowadays... that takes some MAJOR clutchwork though.
I have never raced the hawk... but I did take my gixxer 750 and 1000 to the strip quite a few times though. I never got good at the 1000, but did manage a 10.7 a few times. Its funny, i hit a 10.7 at 123 once and a 10.7 at 135 another time... That means that i did really good off the start on that first run and really good on the back end for the last run... Why i couldnt put the two together i dont know.
I am anxious to take the hawk to the strip though. I hear 11.5 and higher and it makes me wanna cut an 11.0. I just gotta watch that 1st gear torque though. It really POURS on at about 3500 cuz of the tuning...but i think i could get an 11.0. Being 240 with gear on doesnt help though haha. I think my best trap speed would be about 125. couple more months and i'll find out.
With all this talk i'll probably hit a 13.4 @ 90
This bike should easily be capable of cutting a 1.7s 60' with a decent drag racer. I would guess that'd allow for a 7.1ish 1/8 and could possibly break into the 10s which would mean a trap speed of right around 130. Definitely gotta launch really good and hit your shifts though.
newer 600s are capable of 10.6ish 1/4 miles out of the box nowadays... that takes some MAJOR clutchwork though.
I have never raced the hawk... but I did take my gixxer 750 and 1000 to the strip quite a few times though. I never got good at the 1000, but did manage a 10.7 a few times. Its funny, i hit a 10.7 at 123 once and a 10.7 at 135 another time... That means that i did really good off the start on that first run and really good on the back end for the last run... Why i couldnt put the two together i dont know.
I am anxious to take the hawk to the strip though. I hear 11.5 and higher and it makes me wanna cut an 11.0. I just gotta watch that 1st gear torque though. It really POURS on at about 3500 cuz of the tuning...but i think i could get an 11.0. Being 240 with gear on doesnt help though haha. I think my best trap speed would be about 125. couple more months and i'll find out.
With all this talk i'll probably hit a 13.4 @ 90
01-29-2010 | 06:08 AM
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Here's a quick video of an old GS750 (stock engine) doing 1.7 60 ft times. (ran 7.8 @90mph).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgEN3OT3Tdk
IIRC, I only got 2.20 60 ft times with my Superhawk.
Back in the 70's, I had a 1080cc laydown Honda dragbike that did 10.0 at 130mph in the 1/4 and the 60 ft times were around 1.3
http://motorcyclenut.wordpress.com/2...7-edinburg-tx/
I think the Superhawk would do well with just the addition of wheelie bars. Pingle did make some wheelie bars that would fit the Superhawk a few years ago, but the rear shock had to be removed and a strut put in it's place.
Drag racing is fun, and addicting and can easily get very expensive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgEN3OT3Tdk
IIRC, I only got 2.20 60 ft times with my Superhawk.
Back in the 70's, I had a 1080cc laydown Honda dragbike that did 10.0 at 130mph in the 1/4 and the 60 ft times were around 1.3
http://motorcyclenut.wordpress.com/2...7-edinburg-tx/
I think the Superhawk would do well with just the addition of wheelie bars. Pingle did make some wheelie bars that would fit the Superhawk a few years ago, but the rear shock had to be removed and a strut put in it's place.
Drag racing is fun, and addicting and can easily get very expensive.
