Doing coil on cap mod...
#1
Doing coil on cap mod...
Im doing the coil on cap mod and fitting iridium plugs. Got some 07 CBR600 coils coming.
Soo, will I get more HP? Will I feel a difference at all?
I do have a small low rev miss which I think is a slightly rich mixture fouling the plugs. As soon as its up on the needles its fine.
Soo, will I get more HP? Will I feel a difference at all?
I do have a small low rev miss which I think is a slightly rich mixture fouling the plugs. As soon as its up on the needles its fine.
#2
Iridium plugs aren't as good as copper plugs as far as strength of the spark actually. They do however last much longer, that's their advantage.
Generally, if you have a more powerful spark, you want to increase your gap slightly on the plugs to take advantage of the spark.
Generally, if you have a more powerful spark, you want to increase your gap slightly on the plugs to take advantage of the spark.
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#5
i dont think the coil mod is for increasing HP. i could be wrong but i believe its sole purpose is to update to a more modern type of coil. basically just preventing the older type stock coils from failing at some point. similar to a mosfet R/R swap. no performance advantage, just updating the Hawks technology to prevent future failures. like i said i could be wrong but i dont think it does anything to increase HP or performance.
#6
i dont think the coil mod is for increasing HP. i could be wrong but i believe its sole purpose is to update to a more modern type of coil. basically just preventing the older type stock coils from failing at some point. similar to a mosfet R/R swap. no performance advantage, just updating the Hawks technology to prevent future failures. like i said i could be wrong but i dont think it does anything to increase HP or performance.
No increase in anything unless you had issues before the swap.
#9
Please post the dyno graph, from the same bike, on the same dyno, done the same day, with the same operator and the only change was OEM coils vs coil on cap.
#10
like Erik said, there may be gains if the OEM coils were already suffering. if they are both working properly then how could there be any gains? they are both just providing voltage to create the spark. the stick coils just being a more reliable source for said spark....
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like Erik said, there may be gains if the OEM coils were already suffering. if they are both working properly then how could there be any gains? they are both just providing voltage to create the spark. the stick coils just being a more reliable source for said spark....
#17
A lot of people, myself included, do this mod, because thier stock coils are old and instead of buying new stock coils, why not upgrade? Less weight (however little), less parts, less wires. And if you do it right, you buy a set of four coils with harness off eBay, sell the other two coils on here and the mod will be almost free.
Last edited by CruxGNZ; 09-30-2014 at 12:19 PM. Reason: spelling
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#20
Yes, there was someone (I believe it was Tweety on the UK vtr1000.org site. A search will confirm) who dyno'd thier stock coils and then tested the more modern Coil On Plug (COP mod) a.k.a. Stick Coils, back to back to back. There was actually a 2hp difference. Why? I am 99% positive it was because his stock coils were the originals from 1998 with a crap load of miles/use on them.
#23
To be fair I was unsure how it would work for me as I have a tremor. But its great, feel I have more control. I would never go back.
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#25
You won't get any more power if you don't increase gap with a stronger spark. Coil on reduces the resistance in the line. That's the advantage. V=IR. When your V is 50,000 Volts, your I goes up quite quickly even when you only dropped resistance by 0.01 Ohms. If you are doing the coil on mod, increase plug gap slightly. Maybe 5-10%.
#26
Have done this now. Very easy mod. All went to plan. Bike fires up and idles much better. Will be next week before I can ride it sadly.
I noted that the rear plug is showing to be a lot richer than the front. Will drop 1/4 turn on the rear fuel screw.
Plugs I took out look very old and worn. They are DPR9EVX. I wonder if they are the original plugs.
Overall very happy.
I noted that the rear plug is showing to be a lot richer than the front. Will drop 1/4 turn on the rear fuel screw.
Plugs I took out look very old and worn. They are DPR9EVX. I wonder if they are the original plugs.
Overall very happy.
#27
ok so i have to pull my finger out and do this next week
Spokes did you also re-use the shroud around the coil leads on you coil caps??? or can water/dirt now gather in the hole where the spark plug goes.
Spokes did you also re-use the shroud around the coil leads on you coil caps??? or can water/dirt now gather in the hole where the spark plug goes.
#28
I tried and broke the old cap. So at this stage wrapped an old bicycle tube round it. It very tight so cant see much getting in.