So this is what I still dont get. I am about to do the CBR swap but as the clip ons go, why do I need such a rise? On my SH now I have heli bars that I can mount above OR below the triples. Below kind of touches the fairings but I rode it like that for months. Why cant I just do the same with the cbr forks?? Its kinda GSXR position but I dont mind it. What am I missing?

 

I think because they won't clear the fairing. Somebody who has used clipons with CBR forks will be along in the morning to give the definitive answer, but I think because the drop down shape of the top CBR triple causes the clipons to be mounted very low relative to the sides of the fairing the clipons must have a bunch of rise to be high enough to clear.

 

Well on my set up with a SP1 upper triple you need between 2.75-3.0 inches of rise just to put the bars back at the stock height. So whatever rise the heli bars you have now is the minimum rise you could use with a flat upper triple, as you say it works for you in that position (but kinda touching the fairing sounds a bit sketchy to me) . If you use one of the gull wing upper triples, you need the rise you have now plus another .75 (if I remember correctly that is how much the clamp drops) minimum if you plan on mounting the clip ons under the triple.

If you end up with enough fork above the triple to mount the clip ons you could use a much smaller rise.

 

The CBR forks are shorter than the VTR forks. So you mount them with only a few mm showing above the triple. This isn't enough to mount the clipons to, so you have to put them below the triple.

The CBR upper triple is "gull winged" that is they go down below the top of the steering stem, so that puts your clipons even lower. The CBR clipons have very little rise themselves, your fingers will get pinched between the bar and the fairing.

Do you need 3.5" of rise (what I have on mine) no. You could have less rise and be more hunched over. But the 3.5" ones can be mounted lower on the forks to run less rise if you want, but you can not mount the shorter ones higher.

So get the high ones and adjust them for where you want them.

 

AHAH! That makes sense. Lazn, what bars do you have? I was gonna have a machine shop buddy just modify the CBR1000 clip ons to fit. The converti-bars seem like they will immediately double the cost of this project, which of course I dont wanna do.

 

I have the infamous Swatt clipons, that actually work great.. But dealing with Swatt can be a trying experience.

 

Can you give a little more info, or would someone snuff you out if you do?

 

LoL, a quick search on Swatt https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...earchid=536287 will answer all your questions.

 

As the latest victim (I mean customer) of Swatt..... I have to agree. Nice product but saying it's a trying experience is being way too kind.

 

Oh yeah, this isn't too scary. thanks alot guys, all I wanted was some USD forks!

 

If you have a buddy that can mod the stockers, just do that. Otherwise, Swatt makes the cheapest product that works well, just be prepared for a long wait and no communication between your order and receiving the product, and don't expect to be able to return them if they don't work.

Really now that I have access to a mill and lathe, were I to do it again I'd just make my own and be done with it.

 

That's how it started for me (Well someone else decided I really needed them and gave me a set of SP2 forks) It should be done in the next 2-3 weeks

 

I used 929RR clipons mounted below the top triple clamp, with RC51 forks and triple clamps. It was a great sport riding position, lower than stock, but no fairing interference and reasonably comfortable all day long.

I have a tuned set of RC51 SP2 forks - all tuned up, if anyones interested. $400. No triple clamps, though. I also have a right 929 clipon, but not the left.

 

RC51 top triple is not gullwinged, it gives you an extra inch or so of clearance.

 

I haven't tested them... But here is an alternative that should be in the middle price range, ConvertiBars are $350+, Swatt are around $150... These are just under $300...

http://www.speedymoto.com/Merchant2/...tegory_Code=TB

 

You call that middle? Anyway, what did you guys use for brake lines? CBR ones must be too short with the added 3.5"