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Old 11-13-2013 | 08:29 AM
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97-07 YZF600R Rear Shock

Has anyone ever tried to fit one? I ask because Dry the YZF weighs in about 20lbs heavier than the VTR, but the Suspension IMO is FAR superior. Compression and Rebound adjustment in the shock, and since it is sprung for the same weight load it seems like it would be a good fit. I'm mildly curious about the forks as well since they have the Compression and Rebound adjustment as well.

I will measure everything when I have the parts on my person but I'm going to pick up a Race bike from a guy on my YZF forum Friday afternoon that has been a race bike since 97 and has never been titled (but comes with the MSO so I could get it titled, but I don't see much point) and it comes with almost another complete bike worth of spares. I believe there is a spare rear shock but I don't know about forks, just wondering if anyone has ever tried to fit that rear shock before.

Thinking about registering the bike and myself next year for WERA, I need to look up and see what classes I can run with it, was going to do 650 Vtwin racing but I am getting a lot more than I could otherwise afford with this bike, just couldn't pass the deal up
Old 11-13-2013 | 09:45 AM
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We ran R6R shocks on our Fz1's and they were a big improvement, high and low speed compression adjustments.
Old 11-13-2013 | 10:04 AM
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Yes definitely join WERA and race the YZF! We are trying hard to grow the vintage field, it's a much better $ per fun factor than newer bikes. With the YZF you could run V7MW, and bump up to V7HW, which are the classes I run with my FZR400/600. If you have any questions at all about WERA or racing send me a PM and I'll help in any way I can. I have tons of FZR/YZF parts too.

I have a YZF down the barn, and a VTR shock in the basement. I'll take the shock down and get a picture of it next to the YZF next time I go down.
Old 11-13-2013 | 01:25 PM
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Here are some pictures.

The top look close enough, you could make up spacers to bolt the top of the YZF shock into the VTR mount.

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The bottom is different. You would have to modify something about the shock or the VTR linkage to make them bolt up.

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The overall length looks very close. I wasn't able to measure them.

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Old 11-13-2013 | 01:49 PM
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VTR, how wide is the 'C' brace at the bottom of the YZF shock ?
Old 11-13-2013 | 05:30 PM
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98VTrider, thanks.. looks like it could be a decent winter project anyway.

I wouldn't be "traveling" to any races your way, but Barber, Little Tally, and Road Atlanta are all about 2 hours from me, and its cheaper to pay a race entry than it is to run a track day and if I'm reading it right if I race on saturday and show up early enough I get some track time in anyway for practice and I have the ability to practice on friday as well. Three tracks local to me and only a handful of trackdays but seems like every month there is a WERA event going on at one of them. I know I won't be fast or likely very competitive but it just seems like it will fit my budget better and I will have more chance to have a day to actually get to the track... Plus $100 for the track school at a wera event to get my licence just seems like money well spent if I'm going to be at the track a bunch anyway, regardless if I race or not to know whats going on.

Edit: oh and 98 if you were closer I would offer to take that roller off your hands there's enough parts with what I'm getting to build a second bike if I source out a frame and some odd's and ends. 2 motors, 2 carb banks, 2 sets of wheels, 2 sets of race fairings most of the expensive stuff is already there

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Old 11-13-2013 | 09:51 PM
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I come down to Road Atlanta for that race, so maybe I'll see you next year. Racing is definitely a good way to improve your skills and get faster.

Jack Flash - I'll try to get that measurement tomorrow.
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If you can, find out what the spring weight on the YZF shock is. That is more important than the weight of the respective bikes. If that figure is way off then the valving will be equally off.

The YZF shock also looks a good deal shorter, make sure it's stroke length is adequate and before you start sinking money in to the project, have a look at Jamie Daugherty's F4 shock conversion. He'll send you a custom valved, properly sprung, length adjusted F4i shock for your VTR, ready to mount for $420 (last I checked).
Old 11-14-2013 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by davidka
Jamie Daugherty's F4 shock conversion. He'll send you a custom valved, properly sprung, length adjusted F4i shock for your VTR, ready to mount for $420 (last I checked).
And it flat out works great
Old 11-14-2013 | 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by davidka
If you can, find out what the spring weight on the YZF shock is. That is more important than the weight of the respective bikes. If that figure is way off then the valving will be equally off.

The YZF shock also looks a good deal shorter, make sure it's stroke length is adequate and before you start sinking money in to the project, have a look at Jamie Daugherty's F4 shock conversion. He'll send you a custom valved, properly sprung, length adjusted F4i shock for your VTR, ready to mount for $420 (last I checked).
That would be nice if I had the money to spend on that :-p It was purely a question based off of the fact that I may have one laying about and I find the fact that it has more adjustment a plus, the whole point was to do something that I would sink almost no money in. But wow, the YZF uses an 8.4kg/mm spring on the rear and the hawk has a 16.8kg/mm spring.. Wonder why, I always thought the YZF was more than stiff enough in the rear.
Old 11-14-2013 | 08:34 PM
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The spring is only part of the equation. There is the primary leverage of the swinarm and then the linkage.

The SH has a really unusual shock so there has never been a very inexpensive alternative unfortunately. Jamie can also revalve/rebuild the stock shock.
Old 11-15-2013 | 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by davidka
The spring is only part of the equation. There is the primary leverage of the swinarm and then the linkage.

The SH has a really unusual shock so there has never been a very inexpensive alternative unfortunately. Jamie can also revalve/rebuild the stock shock.
Yep, you nailed it - that YZF shock is WAY WAY WAY off for the VTR. Sure, you can make anything "work", but honestly that is not really a very good shock to be starting with. Either an upgrade to the original VTR or the F4 conversion would net you better performance and would actually be less expensive.
Old 11-15-2013 | 09:34 AM
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Jamie, what would be the price if I supply my own F4i shock, and send it to you for the conversion ? This should be good info for everyone else who is toying with the thought of this mod.
Old 11-15-2013 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by insulinboy
I wouldn't be "traveling" to any races your way, but Barber, Little Tally, and Road Atlanta.
Don't forget about Roebling Road in Savannah... it's a little larger than TGPR, and a very fun track with a decent front straight. Of course, nothing like Road Atlanta.

FYI... did you know WERA headquarters are in Woodstock, south of you and north of Marietta?
Old 11-15-2013 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FTL900
Don't forget about Roebling Road in Savannah... it's a little larger than TGPR, and a very fun track with a decent front straight. Of course, nothing like Road Atlanta.

FYI... did you know WERA headquarters are in Woodstock, south of you and north of Marietta?
Mailing address is in canton, either way its only 45 mins or so from me lol
Old 11-15-2013 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Flash
Jamie, what would be the price if I supply my own F4i shock, and send it to you for the conversion ? This should be good info for everyone else who is toying with the thought of this mod.
Please refer to our site for pricing information. For special cases like yours just email and I will give you an accurate quote.
Old 11-16-2013 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by insulinboy
Mailing address is in canton, either way its only 45 mins or so from me lol
Yeah, I forgot about that. After they moved to the area from Hilton Head SC around 1990, they were living in the top floor of their house and working out of several basement offices where they had WERA HQ... until someone in the neighborhood got bent out of shape because they had a few cars parked outside every day and it wasn't zoned for that, so they had to relocate the office.

They may have always been in Canton, but I lived nearby in Woodstock, so I always think it's Woodstock.
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