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Old 03-13-2010 | 06:31 PM
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New to the VTR scene...Where do I Begin?????

I'm new here and I have my first SuperChicken! It is a '98 that has been converted to a semi-naked. There is a single headlight but is it attached to the stock fairing stay, which looks kinda stupid. I'm looking to make it look like a true naked without the light and cluster sticking out. I have searched all over and cannot find any pics of VTR's that have been converted. I want a dual headlight setup so that is what I'm trying for. Any help would help to point me in the right direction or pics of conversions done. Hopefully someone will help!!!

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Old 03-13-2010 | 07:40 PM
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Hi & .

Here you go!

This forum does get used alot & there are plenty of people willing to help. But i dont think you searched very hard.
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Old 03-13-2010 | 08:16 PM
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Thank you. I have found some pics but a lot are in Europe. I guess what I'm looking for is where did the headlight conversion come from or actually what works best with the stock cluster. I really like the Z1000 look but I am having a hard time finding all that I need and will it work with the stock cluster. I have never done any modding like this so bare with me on what seems like stupid questions.

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Old 03-13-2010 | 08:43 PM
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They are not stupid questions, if you have never done this before.

I think most guys doing this go for a headlight that they like the look of & then make custom brackets to make things fit or what ever they have in there garage.
They also change the stock cluster some times to something that will fit better/smaller.

To start with, maybe choose a head light that you like the look of, you have all ready said you like the twin lights.
Then remove your stock head light, cluster & headlight bracket.
then position your new headlight were you like the look & of course will work & not interfere with anything/cables etc.
Then work out a way to mount your new head light, may be you will need to take a trip to your local hardware store & look for some aluminium plates or some brackets, use your imagination & design some thing that will work & may be look good too .
Then see if you can mount up your original speedo cluster in some way that you like, once again you will probably need to make a custom bracket of some kind.
Or you may want to purchase a smaller speedo cluster that will fit better, there are plenty to choose from on e-bay. Also plenty of head light brackets on e-bay.
Hope this is of some help.
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Old 03-13-2010 | 09:59 PM
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Thanks man I appreciate the help. As far as the speedo cluster, what are others that will work as a PnP cluster?
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If you search the net for streetfighter motorcycles you will find lots of usefull pictures & infomation as all streetfighters have the kind of set up that you are going for.
Here are some gauges i found on e-bay & the net that you might like.
The companys are,

s3performance.com
digital-speedos.com.uk

Have a look there are lots more styles too choose from & more internet shops selling them. I dont know how plug n play they are, take a look at there web sites & maybe email them if you find one you like.
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Old 03-13-2010 | 11:10 PM
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Here are some mounted.
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Old 03-13-2010 | 11:31 PM
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Naked VTRs

There are several on this forum, mine being one of them.
Here are a couple of pics to save you the trouble of looking.
The meter is off a CBR900RR, the headlight is 600 Hornet aka 599.
The headlight ears are ABS plastic attached with XR650R number plate straps.

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Old 03-14-2010 | 07:39 PM
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Kai,
Is the CBR900RR an easy swap into the SH harness? Good looking bike!! I found a dual headlight kit from aztec8 which i might look into getting. The cluster is what I'm the most concerned about now.


Honda,
Thanks for the suggestions on the speedo options. I'm gonna look into all options without having to spend a lot of money.

Thanks guys, keep the good info coming!!!!
Old 03-14-2010 | 09:03 PM
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The wire colors are mostly the same and you can use the 98 VTR's low fuel sending unit.
What you will have to do is find the meter assembly and it's plug in with enough wire left over to splice it into the VTR harness.
You will also need a Speedo Healer, or a Yellow Box to calibrate the speedo, mine was off by about 17%.

Have fun and let me know if you have any questions.

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Search aztec8 on eBay. They sell their products on ebay for the same price as their website but don't charge for shipping on eBay. Not really sure why... Speedmotoco.com also has some bracket and headlight setups significantly cheaper. If your truly looking to do this on the cheap search hard. I got a 7" single headlight bucket from an 80 kawi kz550 on eBay for $20 and generic brackets for $26. The brackets required a little modifying but I have a buddy who does metal work for me.
Mine is still a work in progress but I have pics in my profile if you need some ideas. Good luck with your build and be prepared to change your mind on what you're doing every other day.
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I dont think anyone has mounted up digital gauges like the ones in posts 6 & 7 or at least from what I have noticed. I tried to go that route but did a LOT of searching on here and came up empty handed with just other stock honda gauges as replacements. lame.
Old 03-15-2010 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by nothing
I dont think anyone has mounted up digital gauges like the ones in posts 6 & 7 or at least from what I have noticed. I tried to go that route but did a LOT of searching on here and came up empty handed with just other stock honda gauges as replacements. lame.
Here is a wiring diagram, sorry its not the best quality but you can make things out.
There does seem to be guys on other forums using them, as i said in post 6 if you search under street fighter motorcycles you will find much more information than on this superhawk forum.
The manufactures do say they are universal & work on most models.
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Old 03-15-2010 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nothing
I dont think anyone has mounted up digital gauges like the ones in posts 6 & 7 or at least from what I have noticed. I tried to go that route but did a LOT of searching on here and came up empty handed with just other stock honda gauges as replacements. lame.
That's mostly because hooking up one of the universal digital ones is easier than swapping a different stock one.. Just follow the instructions from the universal one and it will work. (I have done it on a quad, it'd be the same for the SH)
Old 03-15-2010 | 10:28 AM
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Thanks for all the info guys!! I have my work cut out for me but looks as if im gonna have some fun with it.

Has anyone had experience with aztec8 or there products?

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Old 03-15-2010 | 12:47 PM
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Another route is the Trail Tech Vapor.
I've been running it for two years on my XR650R/SM and it has more functions than you can shake a stick at.
............and it now also comes in black.

http://www.trailtech.net/computers.html

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Old 03-15-2010 | 02:28 PM
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Nice i like all these options but cost is an issue. I guess im gonna fab up some sort of bracket for my cluster.
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I'm super cheap and I'd rate myself a 2 out of 10 as a mechanic, and although my acribis unit cost a bit more than some have mentioned it took no money or skill to mount in front of the existing gauge cluster. Two metal shims, two nut/bolts and two black zip-ties.
Old 03-15-2010 | 06:01 PM
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Yea thats what im gonba do with my cluster. I just want some clean mounting brackets for my headlight.
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Never purchased from aztec8 but I did email with some questions and they responded quickly.
Old 03-15-2010 | 09:21 PM
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Hmmm im so confused.....what do I do????
Old 03-15-2010 | 10:27 PM
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The great thing about doing something custom is you really can't go wrong. Essentially you're building the bike YOU want and as such it's a lot of trial and error. I've switched between two sets of handlebars three times and am preparing to paint my headlight bucket again because I don't think the color I chose flows with the rest of the bike... Just take your time making your decisions but be prepared to change your mind.
Old 03-15-2010 | 11:19 PM
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Yea i have changed my mind already and I have only had the bike a week. Really need to get the headlight thing figured out first.
Old 03-17-2010 | 02:35 PM
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So im sticking with my headlight that i have and gonna see about getting brackets. Then its on to the cluster mounting that is next. Not a lot of space to work with.
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The good thing about the bucket style headlights (single or double) is that a provides a nice place to hide wiring. Something to keep in mind.
Old 03-18-2010 | 05:50 PM
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That is true! Any ideas on mounting the stock cluster???
Old 03-18-2010 | 10:38 PM
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Chop the triangular portion of the gauge bracket off and run some flat metal stock from headlight brackets to the gauge bracket, provided you're not using the stock headlight bracket which is obviously the same piece. You can chop the mirror mounts off to clean it up a bit. Some websites, such as Aztec8 sell generic guage mounts that ultimately do the same thing just more tidy looking.

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Old 03-19-2010 | 05:30 PM
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Hmmmm i will have to dive into it soon, i really have a lot of ideas on what i want to do. Anyone else have the same obsession with their naked conversions??
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Sometimes I just sit in the garage and stare at it.
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Originally Posted by poppazuti
Sometimes I just sit in the garage and stare at it.
Same here, and then my wife will walk by and exclaim: It's a motorcycle !

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