VTR 1000 Project
#91
Ok, since I'm an inpatient one i'll try once more to mangle the german language...
He Higgens!
Konnten Sie mir bei den Teilen heraus helfen, die benötigt wurden, um das Signal umzuwandeln?
Ich hoffe, daß es ganz getan wird, wie äußere Teile an den Schlag anschlossen, da ich habe einen Schlag an sie Weise... (Ebay)
Werde ich auch an dem Wissen interessiert, was das Material ist... Ich respektiere "Geschäftsgeheimnisse", wenn der der Fall ist, aber als besagtes bin ich ein Elektronikingenieur...
Ich habe bereits die meisten meiner Fahrradelektronik umgebaut, um meinen eigenen Zwecken zu entsprechen...
So bin ich neugierig Was würden die Kosten sein? (offensichtlich einschließlich ein Speedohealer u. ein Verschiffen nach Schweden)
Oh, and in the interest of keeping this thread bi-lingual... in english...
Hey Higgens!
Could you help me out with the parts needed to convert the signal?
I'm hoping it's all done as outside parts connected to the dash as I have a dash on they way... (Ebay) I'm also interested in knowing what the stuff is... I respect "trade secrets" if that's the case, but as said I'm an electronics engineer... I have already rebuilt most of my bikes electronics to suit my own purposes... So I'm curious...
What would the cost be? (obviously including a Speedohealer & shipping to Sweden)
He Higgens!
Konnten Sie mir bei den Teilen heraus helfen, die benötigt wurden, um das Signal umzuwandeln?
Ich hoffe, daß es ganz getan wird, wie äußere Teile an den Schlag anschlossen, da ich habe einen Schlag an sie Weise... (Ebay)
Werde ich auch an dem Wissen interessiert, was das Material ist... Ich respektiere "Geschäftsgeheimnisse", wenn der der Fall ist, aber als besagtes bin ich ein Elektronikingenieur...
Ich habe bereits die meisten meiner Fahrradelektronik umgebaut, um meinen eigenen Zwecken zu entsprechen...
So bin ich neugierig Was würden die Kosten sein? (offensichtlich einschließlich ein Speedohealer u. ein Verschiffen nach Schweden)
Oh, and in the interest of keeping this thread bi-lingual... in english...
Hey Higgens!
Could you help me out with the parts needed to convert the signal?
I'm hoping it's all done as outside parts connected to the dash as I have a dash on they way... (Ebay) I'm also interested in knowing what the stuff is... I respect "trade secrets" if that's the case, but as said I'm an electronics engineer... I have already rebuilt most of my bikes electronics to suit my own purposes... So I'm curious...
What would the cost be? (obviously including a Speedohealer & shipping to Sweden)
#92
Ok, and to keep this thread on title , here's my VTR project so far... Thought it would be easier just to change the fairing into a mask, but now I have the bike once and again stripped down... So far so good, time to shorten the wires and put away the ignition switch and.......
Here some pics...
Here some pics...
#93
My German......well....doesn't exist (even tho I have grandparents named Daubenmeyer and married a Frymyer). I just stumbled on this thread. I have one question for Higgins. The first pic you have (CBF600 dash), is that something that can be fitted on the VTR? Where can you get it...how much...if not, like I said, I have NO CLUE what you guys are saying...sorry. Picture just peaked my interest. I did see one that bolts right up. Where can these be found?
Thanks for any help for the clueless!
Thanks for any help for the clueless!
#94
Ok, since I'm an inpatient one i'll try once more to mangle the german language...
He Higgens!
Konnten Sie mir bei den Teilen heraus helfen, die benötigt wurden, um das Signal umzuwandeln?
Ich hoffe, daß es ganz getan wird, wie äußere Teile an den Schlag anschlossen, da ich habe einen Schlag an sie Weise... (Ebay)
Werde ich auch an dem Wissen interessiert, was das Material ist... Ich respektiere "Geschäftsgeheimnisse", wenn der der Fall ist, aber als besagtes bin ich ein Elektronikingenieur...
Ich habe bereits die meisten meiner Fahrradelektronik umgebaut, um meinen eigenen Zwecken zu entsprechen...
So bin ich neugierig Was würden die Kosten sein? (offensichtlich einschließlich ein Speedohealer u. ein Verschiffen nach Schweden)
Oh, and in the interest of keeping this thread bi-lingual... in english...
Hey Higgens!
Could you help me out with the parts needed to convert the signal?
I'm hoping it's all done as outside parts connected to the dash as I have a dash on they way... (Ebay) I'm also interested in knowing what the stuff is... I respect "trade secrets" if that's the case, but as said I'm an electronics engineer... I have already rebuilt most of my bikes electronics to suit my own purposes... So I'm curious...
What would the cost be? (obviously including a Speedohealer & shipping to Sweden)
He Higgens!
Konnten Sie mir bei den Teilen heraus helfen, die benötigt wurden, um das Signal umzuwandeln?
Ich hoffe, daß es ganz getan wird, wie äußere Teile an den Schlag anschlossen, da ich habe einen Schlag an sie Weise... (Ebay)
Werde ich auch an dem Wissen interessiert, was das Material ist... Ich respektiere "Geschäftsgeheimnisse", wenn der der Fall ist, aber als besagtes bin ich ein Elektronikingenieur...
Ich habe bereits die meisten meiner Fahrradelektronik umgebaut, um meinen eigenen Zwecken zu entsprechen...
So bin ich neugierig Was würden die Kosten sein? (offensichtlich einschließlich ein Speedohealer u. ein Verschiffen nach Schweden)
Oh, and in the interest of keeping this thread bi-lingual... in english...
Hey Higgens!
Could you help me out with the parts needed to convert the signal?
I'm hoping it's all done as outside parts connected to the dash as I have a dash on they way... (Ebay) I'm also interested in knowing what the stuff is... I respect "trade secrets" if that's the case, but as said I'm an electronics engineer... I have already rebuilt most of my bikes electronics to suit my own purposes... So I'm curious...
What would the cost be? (obviously including a Speedohealer & shipping to Sweden)
Der Signalwandler für den Drehzahlmesser ist Recht Teuer liegt bei ca. 200,- Euro, ich kann Dir mal Bilder von den Signalen machen, ich Denke dann kommst Du weiter
#95
O.K., der Preis für das speedohealer ist noch preiswerter als, es localy erhalten...
Aber ich bin nicht ich verstand völlig das letzte Teil sicher.
Bilder des Signals würde wirklich nett sein, aber ist es möglich, eine Stromkreiszeichnung zu erhalten? Ich würde das Geheimnis mit meinem Leben notfalls schützen...
Ich würde sogar bereit sein, einen angemessenen Preis für die Stromkreiszeichnung zu zahlen.
Aber ich bin nicht ich verstand völlig das letzte Teil sicher.
Bilder des Signals würde wirklich nett sein, aber ist es möglich, eine Stromkreiszeichnung zu erhalten? Ich würde das Geheimnis mit meinem Leben notfalls schützen...
Ich würde sogar bereit sein, einen angemessenen Preis für die Stromkreiszeichnung zu zahlen.
#96
OK, thanks Tweety and Reinski....since I can't understand a word of what you said Higgens (except one), I assume you are saying it won't work. That's a bummer, I really like the looks of it, but thanks for the help!
#97
Well it DOES work... what you need is a speedohealer and the electronics to adapt the 4 cyl dash from a CBF/CBR to work with the signal of a 2 cyl VTR... And that part is about 200€ which translates to about 300$ obviously you have to add shipping and whatnot...
What I'm trying to work out with Higgens is how it's accomplished... and if it's something I can build instead of buying it... That part probably won't help you out thoo...
What I'm trying to work out with Higgens is how it's accomplished... and if it's something I can build instead of buying it... That part probably won't help you out thoo...
Last edited by Tweety; 12-11-2007 at 06:36 PM.
#98
@Saxman: Higgens said:"the cockpit from the CBF was not for the Hawk, it was just customized for the CBF"
It's the same problem like Tweety has. Converting a 4 cylinder tacho to the hawk ( with it's two cylinders ) That's not as easy as it seems. So they are discussing again...
It's the same problem like Tweety has. Converting a 4 cylinder tacho to the hawk ( with it's two cylinders ) That's not as easy as it seems. So they are discussing again...
#99
@Saxman: Higgens said:"the cockpit from the CBF was not for the Hawk, it was just customized for the CBF"
It's the same problem like Tweety has. Converting a 4 cylinder tacho to the hawk ( with it's two cylinders ) That's not as easy as it seems. So they are discussing again...
It's the same problem like Tweety has. Converting a 4 cylinder tacho to the hawk ( with it's two cylinders ) That's not as easy as it seems. So they are discussing again...
#101
Here goes...
Higgens is using the CBR gauge cluster, with an integrated gear position indicator and with the speedo signal corrected with a Speedo Healer.
He does mention that the pulse signal from the VTR does not match the CBR tach ( rpm ) because of the shape of the signal and suggests sourcing it directly from the pulse generator.
Note: In German "Tacho" indicates vehicle speed while Drehzahlmesser indicates engine speed.
Speaking from my own experience of running a 2002 CBR900rr cluster on my 2002 VTR I also had to correct the speedo signal ( Speedo Healer ) but have had no problem using the stock Tach wire from the VTR harness on the CBR gauges.
It's sourced from the coils and, like an inline four, it also has a wasted spark and as such matches the VTR signal.
I verified it's accuracy with a Fluke tach and it's dead on.
The only problem is with the fuel gauge since the later VTR's have a float type level gauge while the CBR has a thermister that merely indicates a low level.
All you have to do is find an early low level gauge, pre 2002, for the VTR and plug it in, like I did.
I hope this clears this up a tad.
If not let me know.
Kai Ju
Higgens is using the CBR gauge cluster, with an integrated gear position indicator and with the speedo signal corrected with a Speedo Healer.
He does mention that the pulse signal from the VTR does not match the CBR tach ( rpm ) because of the shape of the signal and suggests sourcing it directly from the pulse generator.
Note: In German "Tacho" indicates vehicle speed while Drehzahlmesser indicates engine speed.
Speaking from my own experience of running a 2002 CBR900rr cluster on my 2002 VTR I also had to correct the speedo signal ( Speedo Healer ) but have had no problem using the stock Tach wire from the VTR harness on the CBR gauges.
It's sourced from the coils and, like an inline four, it also has a wasted spark and as such matches the VTR signal.
I verified it's accuracy with a Fluke tach and it's dead on.
The only problem is with the fuel gauge since the later VTR's have a float type level gauge while the CBR has a thermister that merely indicates a low level.
All you have to do is find an early low level gauge, pre 2002, for the VTR and plug it in, like I did.
I hope this clears this up a tad.
If not let me know.
Kai Ju
#102
Well it does clear up some parts....
The speedohealer part is clear as crystal.... so the speedo is going to work...
The fuel gauge isn't a problem, my bike is a 97'... So I already have the parts needed... Also the temp gauge isn't a problem I just have to swap out the sensor for another one with the correct resistance to match the gauge... (ie a cbr one)
The only question that remains is the rpm's... but as you say yours worked I might just try it and see what happens...
The speedohealer part is clear as crystal.... so the speedo is going to work...
The fuel gauge isn't a problem, my bike is a 97'... So I already have the parts needed... Also the temp gauge isn't a problem I just have to swap out the sensor for another one with the correct resistance to match the gauge... (ie a cbr one)
The only question that remains is the rpm's... but as you say yours worked I might just try it and see what happens...
#103
O.K., der Preis für das speedohealer ist noch preiswerter als, es localy erhalten...
Aber ich bin nicht ich verstand völlig das letzte Teil sicher.
Bilder des Signals würde wirklich nett sein, aber ist es möglich, eine Stromkreiszeichnung zu erhalten? Ich würde das Geheimnis mit meinem Leben notfalls schützen...
Ich würde sogar bereit sein, einen angemessenen Preis für die Stromkreiszeichnung zu zahlen.
Aber ich bin nicht ich verstand völlig das letzte Teil sicher.
Bilder des Signals würde wirklich nett sein, aber ist es möglich, eine Stromkreiszeichnung zu erhalten? Ich würde das Geheimnis mit meinem Leben notfalls schützen...
Ich würde sogar bereit sein, einen angemessenen Preis für die Stromkreiszeichnung zu zahlen.
Sorry hatte sehr viel zu Arbeiten.
gib mir deine eMail Adresse und ich Sende Dir die Bilder zu.
#104
Here goes...
Higgens is using the CBR gauge cluster, with an integrated gear position indicator and with the speedo signal corrected with a Speedo Healer.
He does mention that the pulse signal from the VTR does not match the CBR tach ( rpm ) because of the shape of the signal and suggests sourcing it directly from the pulse generator.
Note: In German "Tacho" indicates vehicle speed while Drehzahlmesser indicates engine speed.
Speaking from my own experience of running a 2002 CBR900rr cluster on my 2002 VTR I also had to correct the speedo signal ( Speedo Healer ) but have had no problem using the stock Tach wire from the VTR harness on the CBR gauges.
It's sourced from the coils and, like an inline four, it also has a wasted spark and as such matches the VTR signal.
I verified it's accuracy with a Fluke tach and it's dead on.
The only problem is with the fuel gauge since the later VTR's have a float type level gauge while the CBR has a thermister that merely indicates a low level.
All you have to do is find an early low level gauge, pre 2002, for the VTR and plug it in, like I did.
I hope this clears this up a tad.
If not let me know.
Kai Ju
Higgens is using the CBR gauge cluster, with an integrated gear position indicator and with the speedo signal corrected with a Speedo Healer.
He does mention that the pulse signal from the VTR does not match the CBR tach ( rpm ) because of the shape of the signal and suggests sourcing it directly from the pulse generator.
Note: In German "Tacho" indicates vehicle speed while Drehzahlmesser indicates engine speed.
Speaking from my own experience of running a 2002 CBR900rr cluster on my 2002 VTR I also had to correct the speedo signal ( Speedo Healer ) but have had no problem using the stock Tach wire from the VTR harness on the CBR gauges.
It's sourced from the coils and, like an inline four, it also has a wasted spark and as such matches the VTR signal.
I verified it's accuracy with a Fluke tach and it's dead on.
The only problem is with the fuel gauge since the later VTR's have a float type level gauge while the CBR has a thermister that merely indicates a low level.
All you have to do is find an early low level gauge, pre 2002, for the VTR and plug it in, like I did.
I hope this clears this up a tad.
If not let me know.
Kai Ju
#105
Kai Ju räumte nur einige Teile des deutschen Wortschatzes, der mich verwirrt hatte auf und gab eine schnelle Rekapitulation
Last edited by Tweety; 01-14-2008 at 03:32 PM.
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