luggage
01-30-2010 | 06:45 PM
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luggage
Kind of in a toss up.
00' Hawk, headin to Deals Gap with the step dad, mom, and girlfriend in april. step dads riding a BMW with GIVI bags and has plenty of storage for his stuff.... as for the GF and I, id like to throw something on...small (doesnt get uncomfortable and in the way) tankbag on justto throw the camera, and some other misc. junk in. any input? i THOUGHT about "sport saddle bags" but im kind of leaning away from those......baaahh what to do
00' Hawk, headin to Deals Gap with the step dad, mom, and girlfriend in april. step dads riding a BMW with GIVI bags and has plenty of storage for his stuff.... as for the GF and I, id like to throw something on...small (doesnt get uncomfortable and in the way) tankbag on justto throw the camera, and some other misc. junk in. any input? i THOUGHT about "sport saddle bags" but im kind of leaning away from those......baaahh what to do
01-30-2010 | 07:06 PM
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My wife and I have 3 magnetic tankbags. Cortech super 14 liter, mini and super mini.
With the 14 liter and the mini (larger than it sounds, it expands to 10 liters I think) my wife and I did a 3 day trip last summer (she rides an SV650S). We managed just fine, but then that was the California Coast in the summer.
I like tankbags myself, and I've used them for almost 30 years. I did a couple of trips to Laguna Seca in the mid '80s, carrying a camera with 2 lenses including a 300mm lens, with just a tank bag. Those were 3 and 4 day trips.
With the 14 liter and the mini (larger than it sounds, it expands to 10 liters I think) my wife and I did a 3 day trip last summer (she rides an SV650S). We managed just fine, but then that was the California Coast in the summer.
I like tankbags myself, and I've used them for almost 30 years. I did a couple of trips to Laguna Seca in the mid '80s, carrying a camera with 2 lenses including a 300mm lens, with just a tank bag. Those were 3 and 4 day trips.
01-31-2010 | 07:52 AM
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Really like my Ventura bag and rack. Rack mount tubes are fairly discreet and has a short and tall rack for use with and without the bag. Nice anchorage for additional luggage on the passenger seat. Bag has decent volume and backpack straps. Looks like two can zip together for luggage also. Have a decent size tank bag on my Beemer but not sure how much I'd like to ride with one on a sportbike. Like most things, would probably get used to it.
02-02-2010 | 10:17 PM
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[quote=VTRsurfer;252210]My wife and I have 3 magnetic tankbags. Cortech super 14 liter, mini and super mini.
magnetic huh? caught my eye....how were they on the wallet, and where can i find a set to do a little research.
magnetic huh? caught my eye....how were they on the wallet, and where can i find a set to do a little research.
02-03-2010 | 12:03 AM
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Hi, check my album pics for a shot of the short rack and the mount tubes. They attach at the subframe in two spots. I'll load a few closeups of the tall rack and bag tomorrow.
02-03-2010 | 08:21 AM
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So are you riding two up or does she have her own bike?
When I tour I use my magnetic 21 liter cortech tank bag and my custom tail rack. I strap the sleeping bag, pad, and tent to the rack. This sets me up for about five days riding without needing to stop to do laundry. It wouldn't work very well two up though.
Here are two hawks with the same rack setup.
When I tour I use my magnetic 21 liter cortech tank bag and my custom tail rack. I strap the sleeping bag, pad, and tent to the rack. This sets me up for about five days riding without needing to stop to do laundry. It wouldn't work very well two up though.
Here are two hawks with the same rack setup.
02-03-2010 | 10:45 PM
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Here are some pics of the setup I've been working on. The bags sit far enough back that I can mount the rear pegs and my wife can ride with me, at the same time she won't be dealing with saddlebag straps under her rear.
02-04-2010 | 06:59 AM
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The rails are ZenRails. Unfortunately they are now out of business, which is why I'm having to make my own mounting brackets. The rails originally had mounting lugs on them for hard bags, but I have no idea what kind of bags they were supposed to mount.
02-04-2010 | 09:37 AM
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I like both those Fabricted solutions, and think I might copy both the rack for 1 up, and the Big rails for 2 up.
Cornandp, can you show how the rack mounts to frame? I assume it is mounts to the seat, so is there a picture of the underside?
Cornandp, can you show how the rack mounts to frame? I assume it is mounts to the seat, so is there a picture of the underside?
02-04-2010 | 09:55 AM
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Looking at it I think fabrication would not be hard. If anything you could buy the tubing for the large rail and pay an exhaust shop to bend it and cut it for you. The rest can be done with a Dremel, a drill and a basic welder.
02-04-2010 | 01:06 PM
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Was actually wondering the same thing. Is there really a heat differance from carbon and stainless? I have the same bags as scatterbrained and have two bros. hi pipes and have been afraid to try them on.
02-04-2010 | 03:16 PM
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After our night ride last night the first thing I did was grab my pipe with bare hands. It was like a warm dinner plate. That is the case with both of my bikes that have carbon pipes. The bikes that I've had with steel pipes would get very hot. Carbon fiber is naturally resistant to heat transfer.
02-06-2010 | 05:54 PM
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So are you riding two up or does she have her own bike?
When I tour I use my magnetic 21 liter cortech tank bag and my custom tail rack. I strap the sleeping bag, pad, and tent to the rack. This sets me up for about five days riding without needing to stop to do laundry. It wouldn't work very well two up though.
Here are two hawks with the same rack setup.
When I tour I use my magnetic 21 liter cortech tank bag and my custom tail rack. I strap the sleeping bag, pad, and tent to the rack. This sets me up for about five days riding without needing to stop to do laundry. It wouldn't work very well two up though.
Here are two hawks with the same rack setup.
Any problems with seat clearance on your mounts?
02-06-2010 | 11:14 PM
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No problems with clearance, the rack mounts to the studs that hold the hooks under the seat. Been using it for a few years, have made about ten of them. A few for people on here. Myself, springbubba, my dad, blustreak, and a few others. They hold alot of gear and do it well. When not being used it looks sleak, its light. I haven't had any issues with them damaging either the seat or bodywork, and that with a combined 12k miles of use is a pretty good shake down run. There is an old thread I posted pics of how it mounted.
https://www.superhawkforum.com/forum...ight=tail+rack
02-07-2010 | 12:09 AM
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On last years "mega-trip" I used a Nelson Rigg MG-950K magnetic tank bag and a SP-903 expandable touring tank bag (as a tail bag) held onto the passenger seat with a bungee net. The setup worked great overall and was very cheap, $10 per bag on eBay. I used the tank bag for anything I would need access to quickly, i.e. Frog Toggs, hydration pack, iPod, snacks, etc.., and I used the tail bag for all my clothes and whatnot. The draw backs were security and moisture. Whenever it started to rain I would have to stop and flop a trash bag on the bags, but would have to take the trash bags off if I wanted to haul a$$ as they would shred in the wind. Also, I had to lug them around if we stopped anywhere I didn't feel comfortable leaving all my stuff behind.
So, for this years trip I've decided to go with a top case... It's weather proof and it locks up tight. Although it's not exactly aesthetically pleasing, it does solve to two issues I had with the soft bags. I bought a Givi rack off of another member here and started searching around for a small Givi top case only to find the small Givi cases will not work with my rack. I did some research and found Coocase has some nice cases and an adapter kit to make their mounting plate compatible with the Givi rack. I opted for the basic Coocase V28 (without all the bells and whistles) which was the smallest they offered. Since the VTR is such a slender bike I didn't want it sticking out on the sides too far. Another good point about the top case is my wife now has a backrest for when she goes riding with me.
So, for this years trip I've decided to go with a top case... It's weather proof and it locks up tight. Although it's not exactly aesthetically pleasing, it does solve to two issues I had with the soft bags. I bought a Givi rack off of another member here and started searching around for a small Givi top case only to find the small Givi cases will not work with my rack. I did some research and found Coocase has some nice cases and an adapter kit to make their mounting plate compatible with the Givi rack. I opted for the basic Coocase V28 (without all the bells and whistles) which was the smallest they offered. Since the VTR is such a slender bike I didn't want it sticking out on the sides too far. Another good point about the top case is my wife now has a backrest for when she goes riding with me.
02-07-2010 | 01:01 AM
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I made my own rack and it was quite easy to do. The only issues is some scuffing that it leaves on the seat. Otherwise you can see that I was well luggaged for my ride to CO. The pick fully loaded is after I got back, hence the bugs. That night was ridiculous, I had to stop twice in 100 miles to clean the visor.
03-10-2010 | 07:04 PM
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I have one of Andrew's racks (which I just built a custom seat around), a pair of Cortech sport bags (like I saw previous responder carry on his yellow hawk) and a Cortech Mini-tank bag (magnetic). Like Andrew, I put my sleeping pad around the inside of a drybag, stuff my sleeping bag inside, and tie it and my tent to his rack. The Cortech bags have heat shields on the bottoms. The only issue I ran into is that if you still have stock turn signals on the back, the saddlebags sort of hang on them. I took mine off and replaced them with an LED tail-light with integrated turn signals. Now they drop flush.
Andrews racks are very elegant, beautifully crafted and very reasonably priced. If you're lucky, he can make you one. Like you, I'm planning a week ride to the Devil's Gap area on 2 lanes through the Appalachains (and back) from New England in early Sept. Be careful, I heard this winter destroyed the roads in the central Appalachains. Lots of potholes, washouts, etc.
Andrews racks are very elegant, beautifully crafted and very reasonably priced. If you're lucky, he can make you one. Like you, I'm planning a week ride to the Devil's Gap area on 2 lanes through the Appalachains (and back) from New England in early Sept. Be careful, I heard this winter destroyed the roads in the central Appalachains. Lots of potholes, washouts, etc.
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