...from VTR to VFR
#1
...from VTR to VFR
wanting a little bit more comfort out of my next bike i opted for a vfr. i was looking to get a 1998-2001 because i figured they would be in my price range. ofcourse everybody wanted atleast $5,000 for thiers unless it had 40k miles. finally i came across a 2004 wih 11k miles for only $4500. it has some rash on the left side from a 20mph lowside but was otherwise meticulously maintained.
everything about the bike rocks... but i sure so wish it had a v-twin in it.
everything about the bike rocks... but i sure so wish it had a v-twin in it.
Last edited by inderocker; 04-27-2008 at 12:42 AM.
#3
Hmmm, let me guess: Your name is Daniel Paul?
I recently did the same thing except that it's my second VTEC. Your damage is much lighter than mine (you can buff that out!! LOL) and might want to try a search on VFRd in the 6th gen forum about using a decal design over the damaged area that one guy came up with. It looks pretty good and might tide you over till you can get better parts.
Yeah, the V4 is the next best thing to the VTR's twin but it can't overcome the torque deficit can it? I'm fotomoto over there. Check out my mods.
I recently did the same thing except that it's my second VTEC. Your damage is much lighter than mine (you can buff that out!! LOL) and might want to try a search on VFRd in the 6th gen forum about using a decal design over the damaged area that one guy came up with. It looks pretty good and might tide you over till you can get better parts.
Yeah, the V4 is the next best thing to the VTR's twin but it can't overcome the torque deficit can it? I'm fotomoto over there. Check out my mods.
#5
You got that right. I got off a really lucky business deal recently and rewarded myself. Here's the stable now! What a blast to have both. Hopefully I can put the taxes on hold for a year and I got a salvage deal on it! It cleaned up real nice but I can't go whole hog on the stuff I'd like to buy for both of them. My VFR buddies sneer at my $60 middie and my D&D. It didn't cost me $500 and it sounds a shitload better than the stocker! Besides that I got another one in the garage! (I bought Lou's old pair from his Fighter project) Enjoy your new ride. Stop in over at VFRDiscussion.com. Superbling is a member over there too. Keep hanging here too. With the price of 'Hawks nowdays - you never know!
#7
Vtr & Vfr
both of them are great bikes. i did the same thing in reverse order. i originally had a 1995 VFR (red of course) then sold it and added a 1998 VTR (red of course) to the stable. i absolutely have loved both bikes. hurray for honda engineering! congrats on the new purchase. i wish i had the room and money to keep both!
#10
You got that right. I got off a really lucky business deal recently and rewarded myself. Here's the stable now! What a blast to have both. Hopefully I can put the taxes on hold for a year and I got a salvage deal on it! It cleaned up real nice but I can't go whole hog on the stuff I'd like to buy for both of them. My VFR buddies sneer at my $60 middie and my D&D. It didn't cost me $500 and it sounds a shitload better than the stocker! Besides that I got another one in the garage! (I bought Lou's old pair from his Fighter project) Enjoy your new ride. Stop in over at VFRDiscussion.com. Superbling is a member over there too. Keep hanging here too. With the price of 'Hawks nowdays - you never know!
#11
You're going to think this is REAL stupid but I am always at a loss when it comes to **** like this. My handle is Visual Flight Rules which was the only thing that was familiar to me with the initials VFR. OK, so there you have it, that's the dumbest **** that I've ever admitted to in public.
#12
You're going to think this is REAL stupid but I am always at a loss when it comes to **** like this. My handle is Visual Flight Rules which was the only thing that was familiar to me with the initials VFR. OK, so there you have it, that's the dumbest **** that I've every admitted to in public.
#14
You guys have crazy low motorcycle prices down there.....im looking for a 500cc starter bike that a few years old for my fiance and they are all in the 5,000 dollar range....might have to take a road trip soon...
Cheers
Cheers
#15
Sometimes the prices vary wildly from state to state even. I had a friend who used to buy a new bike every year or so and we live in South Florida and he used to take a little road trip to Georgia or Tennessee and get MUCH cheaper prices there than he could locally.
#16
funny thing is... i got such a good deal, in a state that is known for high prices... california. you just have to know where to look. keep your eyes peeled to classified ads that do not have any listing fee's or low listing fee's, such as craigs list or the recycler. somebody that wants to off something cheap will not want to spend a bunch listing it.
#17
I was looking at a bike for my GF and that's a real tough size to fit. The CBR600's are close but they can be a little squirrely for a new rider - especially a chick. The best "chick-bike" that I found for a beginner was a FZR400. The guy had bought it for his GF and she never rode it. It was near perfect with 6k miles but the carbs had problems from sitting too long. My GF got cold feet about the whole bike thing and I got cold feet about making the investment in a bike that may not get used. The guy wanted $2750 and was pretty solid in his price but I think it ultimately could have been bought for about $2300. The last time I talked with him before I dropped the deal he still didn't have it running well so I think offered the opportunity to get out he would have accepted. I agree, Craig's list is a very good resource and watch the cities near by if you can. I always watch Dallas, SA, Houston, Phoenix and the Bay Area.
#18
wanting a little bit more comfort out of my next bike i opted for a vfr. i was looking to get a 1998-2001 because i figured they would be in my price range. ofcourse everybody wanted atleast $5,000 for thiers unless it had 40k miles. finally i came across a 2004 wih 11k miles for only $4500. it has some rash on the left side from a 20mph lowside but was otherwise meticulously maintained.
everything about the bike rocks... but i sure so wish it had a v-twin in it, perhaps fuel injected.
everything about the bike rocks... but i sure so wish it had a v-twin in it, perhaps fuel injected.
#19
nice bikes.... trust me, if i could afford both i would... they are definetly the 2 best bikes that any of the manufacturers make imho. like i said before though, if the vfr had a f-i v-twin then it would definetly be the best bike ever. when this motor finally goes (if it ever does) i might consider an rc51 swap.... just for fun.
#20
nice bikes.... trust me, if i could afford both i would... they are definetly the 2 best bikes that any of the manufacturers make imho. like i said before though, if the vfr had a f-i v-twin then it would definetly be the best bike ever. when this motor finally goes (if it ever does) i might consider an rc51 swap.... just for fun.
#21
http://www.scpmc.net/cpg148/index.php?cat=10311 Here are some pics that show the hawk GT a little better.
#24
I'm saving that particular spot for the Adventure Tourer or Dual Sport. The Gixxer doesn't have the ground clearance to climb the stairs!!!!!!!!!!!
#27
Interesting.... I was considering this swap in the not too distant future.
VTR >>> VFR, seems like I wasn't the only one to have this idea.
Anyone care to comment on the difference in terms of performance? I'd be real keen to hear thoughts from those having made the changeover.
I understand that there is a weight advantage to the VTR... Does this make the VFR much slower on the twisty stuff? What about outright pulling power? I love this about the VTR, would hate to lose that fun factor.
VTR >>> VFR, seems like I wasn't the only one to have this idea.
Anyone care to comment on the difference in terms of performance? I'd be real keen to hear thoughts from those having made the changeover.
I understand that there is a weight advantage to the VTR... Does this make the VFR much slower on the twisty stuff? What about outright pulling power? I love this about the VTR, would hate to lose that fun factor.
#28
Anyone care to comment on the difference in terms of performance?
I understand that there is a weight advantage to the VTR... Does this make the VFR much slower on the twisty stuff? What about outright pulling power? I love this about the VTR, would hate to lose that fun factor.
I understand that there is a weight advantage to the VTR... Does this make the VFR much slower on the twisty stuff? What about outright pulling power? I love this about the VTR, would hate to lose that fun factor.
the weight is actually almost identical. in my opinion the vtr was more flick-able and did feel lighter overall, but by no means is the vfr "much" slower in the twisties. it may just be in my head or maybe the vtr has a better center of gravity. you can definitely feel the difference in weight when you top off the tank on the vfr (but i'm really not going to complain about that!! i love the extra mileage!! )
power-
to be completely honest, i missed my tourqey v-twin at first... that motor screamed fun! whenever someone would ride my vtr they would always come back raving about the motor, it's definitely in a league of it's own, as is the vfr motor. the vtech vfr motor is a completely different animal... it's some-what docile at first then tears into fistfuls of power. it's still plenty fun to ride, but if i had a choice i'd slap a v-twin in my vfr.
overall-
although i really want another vtr, i do not want one as my only bike. the comfort, looks, gadgets, and performance all make the vfr the overall winner in my book. and even though the motor is not the same i have found cheap ways to bring very close ( k&n air filter, and a gutted stick exhaust). you can ride the vfr all day long and not have to go see a chiropractor the next day. the suspension feels a lot better (i may of accidental just set it up better), and the fuel range is awesome! i
i hope this helps somewhat!
#29
No the VTR is about 50lbs lighter. Published dry weights: 425 vs. 472. Difference in wet weight is an even greater due to the larger fuel tank and cooling system.
Overall, I feel faster on the VTR. I feel better, mid-corner, on the VFR (that "like I'm on rails" feeling) but into and out of corners I like the VTR better.
Overall, I feel faster on the VTR. I feel better, mid-corner, on the VFR (that "like I'm on rails" feeling) but into and out of corners I like the VTR better.