Appalachian Mountain Ride
#1
Appalachian Mountain Ride
I have this listed with a local group but wanted to post on here for other SH riders in the area. If you think you may be interested in doing this trip over the summer please let me know and we can start formulating a plan.
I have been wanting to put together a ride for myself and anyone else that may be interested in riding the Appalachian Mountains. I have come up with a general idea of what route I would like to take. I would like your opinions also since this is my first attempt at putting together such a ride.
My idea centers around starting at Spruce **** in WV and ending at Deals Gap. It is about a 400-500 mile ride depending on the route. I also wanted to keep this cheap and thought about utilizing camping sites along the route to really make it a get-a-way designed to simply enjoy the Appalachians.
Here is what I have come up with so far:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Spruce+****,+Western,+WV &daddr=Gentry's+Landing,+Narrows,+Virginia+to:5656 + Fall+Creek+Dock+Rd.,+Russellville,+TN+37860+(Heron +Point+Marina+%26+Campground)+to:N+35.46686+W+83.9 2001&geocode=FTyDTgId5GxC-ymBjhv9wy9LiDEq7UI25rJ92Q%3BFU9SOgId-8Au-yFhWArQCzOj8Q%3BFae2KQIdqikK-ylT3tS4V6JbiDEt9zcnYaZsNQ%3BFWwuHQIddnv_-g&hl=en&mra=ls&dirflg=ht&sll=37.100215,-81.779535&sspn=4.030456,9.832764&ie=UTF8&ll=37.099 003,-81.738281&spn=4.030456,9.832764&z=7
Basically it is a 3 leg, 4 day trip. One day would be devoted to getting up to WV to begin the trip. (Roughly 10 hours from ATL to Spruce ****)
I am thinking about covering a weekend by hauling to Spruce on Thursday and beginning the ride on Fri, ending Sunday.
The first leg is 156 miles, second is 174, and third is right at 100. (Are these too long? Too short?)
I know there are guys that have done longer legs but my idea is just to relax and enjoy the ride. I would like to spend about half the day riding at a comfortable pace and half the day enjoying friends and the parks where the camping would occur.
Anyway, this is just and idea I have been wanting to do for some time and I am wanting to try to accomplish this around the June/July time frame. Any and all information, suggestions, or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Would anyone else like to explore this trip in greater detail with me? You are welcome to come along. I am sure we would also need a support truck or two.
I have been wanting to put together a ride for myself and anyone else that may be interested in riding the Appalachian Mountains. I have come up with a general idea of what route I would like to take. I would like your opinions also since this is my first attempt at putting together such a ride.
My idea centers around starting at Spruce **** in WV and ending at Deals Gap. It is about a 400-500 mile ride depending on the route. I also wanted to keep this cheap and thought about utilizing camping sites along the route to really make it a get-a-way designed to simply enjoy the Appalachians.
Here is what I have come up with so far:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Spruce+****,+Western,+WV &daddr=Gentry's+Landing,+Narrows,+Virginia+to:5656 + Fall+Creek+Dock+Rd.,+Russellville,+TN+37860+(Heron +Point+Marina+%26+Campground)+to:N+35.46686+W+83.9 2001&geocode=FTyDTgId5GxC-ymBjhv9wy9LiDEq7UI25rJ92Q%3BFU9SOgId-8Au-yFhWArQCzOj8Q%3BFae2KQIdqikK-ylT3tS4V6JbiDEt9zcnYaZsNQ%3BFWwuHQIddnv_-g&hl=en&mra=ls&dirflg=ht&sll=37.100215,-81.779535&sspn=4.030456,9.832764&ie=UTF8&ll=37.099 003,-81.738281&spn=4.030456,9.832764&z=7
Basically it is a 3 leg, 4 day trip. One day would be devoted to getting up to WV to begin the trip. (Roughly 10 hours from ATL to Spruce ****)
I am thinking about covering a weekend by hauling to Spruce on Thursday and beginning the ride on Fri, ending Sunday.
The first leg is 156 miles, second is 174, and third is right at 100. (Are these too long? Too short?)
I know there are guys that have done longer legs but my idea is just to relax and enjoy the ride. I would like to spend about half the day riding at a comfortable pace and half the day enjoying friends and the parks where the camping would occur.
Anyway, this is just and idea I have been wanting to do for some time and I am wanting to try to accomplish this around the June/July time frame. Any and all information, suggestions, or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Would anyone else like to explore this trip in greater detail with me? You are welcome to come along. I am sure we would also need a support truck or two.
#2
Some of the places and historical landmarks that are along the route would be:
Spruce ****, at 4,863 feet (1,482 m), is the highest point in the state of West Virginia and the summit of Spruce Mountain, the tallest mountain in the Alleghenies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spruce_Knob
The Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope (GBT) is the world's largest fully steerable radio telescope and the world's largest land-based movable structure. It is part of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) site at Green Bank, West Virginia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bank_Telescope
Oakhurst Links/White Sulphur Springs/The Greenbrier,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_S..._West_Virginia
America's first golf course was opened in 1884 in White Sulphur Springs and is called Oakhurst Links. Visitors to Oakhurst Links play the course just as golfers did in 1884. Golf at Oakhurst is played with replica 19th-century long-nose, hickory-shafted clubs and "guttie" *****, (made in St. Andrews Scotland exclusively for Oakhurst) hit from sand tees. The US National Hickory Championship tournament is held at Oakhurst annually in June.
The Greenbrier is also the site of a massive underground bunker that was meant to serve as an emergency shelter for the United States Congress during the Cold War.
Organ Cave, Significant fossil discoveries bear witness to the early natural history of Organ Cave: grizzly bear, nine-banded armadillo, sabre-tooth cat, reindeer and an Ice Age porcupine[7]. Organ Cave's human history is attested by flintarrowheads used by early American Indians. Evidence of early white settlers in the cave is suggested by the date "1704" scratched on a wall, but this may be a later addition since the first white settlers to Greenbrier County came only in the 1740s.
The cave has been used since before 1835 as a source for nitre (saltpeter) for the manufacture of gunpowder. During the American Civil War, Confederate soldiers under the command of General Robert E. Lee again mined the cave for nitre. The cave today has the nation's largest collection of Civil War-era saltpeter hoppers.
Organ Cave was first surveyed by members of the National Speleological Society in July 1948. For many years it was considered the longest cave in the world. As of 16 March 2009 (2009 -03-16)[update], the Organ Cave System had 38.452 miles (61.882 km) of surveyed cave passage making it the 35th longest cave in the world, the 8th longest in the United States, and the 2nd longest in West Virginia.
Tazewell County, Before the arrival of pioneers Tazewell County was a hunting ground for Native Americans. Although rare in the eastern United States, there are petroglyphs near the summit of Paintlick Mountain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tazewell_County,_Virginia
Natural Tunnel State Park is a Virginia state park, centered around the Natural Tunnel, a massive naturally-formed cave that is so large it is used as a railroad tunnel. It is located in the Appalachian Mountains near Duffield in Scott County, Virginia. (Just off the route, would require a detour)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Tunnel_State_Park
Rogersville is a town in Hawkins County, Tennessee, United States. It was settled in 1775 by the grandparents of Davy Crockett and is the second-oldest town in the state. It is named for its founder, Joseph Rogers.
Tennessee's oldest courthouse, first newspaper, and first post office are each located in Rogersville. Much of the Town is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.
In November 1863, during the American Civil War, Rogersville was the site of a battle between occupying Federal forces and invading Confederate troops. Union forces were encamped just outside the town. The Confederates, led by Brigadier General William E. Jones, were able to surprise the Union forces and pursue them across the Holston River and into Greene County. The Confederates held the town for the remainder of the War.
Sentiment in Rogersville was divided between loyalists, many of whom supported the efforts by many to get twenty-six East Tennessee counties to secede from the State and re-join the Union. Other Rogersvillians saw President Lincoln's invasion of Tennessee as an unprecedented invasion of their homes and an incursion by Federal power; these people became strong Confederates.
Partly because of the town's mixed loyalties, Rogersville was spared destruction during the war; indeed, many of the town's buildings were used by the different occupying armies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogersville,_tn
Cherokee Reservoir, also known as Cherokee Lake, Cherokee Reservoir is named for the tribe of Native Americans who once inhabited the area. The great Indian warpath, once followed by Daniel Boone, crossed the basin now filled by the reservoir.
Cherokee Reservoir is a popular recreation destination. Along its shoreline are public access areas, county and municipal parks, commercial boat docks and resorts, a state park, and a state wildlife management area. There are many tent and trailer sites for campers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Lake
Spruce ****, at 4,863 feet (1,482 m), is the highest point in the state of West Virginia and the summit of Spruce Mountain, the tallest mountain in the Alleghenies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spruce_Knob
The Robert C. Byrd Green Bank Telescope (GBT) is the world's largest fully steerable radio telescope and the world's largest land-based movable structure. It is part of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory (NRAO) site at Green Bank, West Virginia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bank_Telescope
Oakhurst Links/White Sulphur Springs/The Greenbrier,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_S..._West_Virginia
America's first golf course was opened in 1884 in White Sulphur Springs and is called Oakhurst Links. Visitors to Oakhurst Links play the course just as golfers did in 1884. Golf at Oakhurst is played with replica 19th-century long-nose, hickory-shafted clubs and "guttie" *****, (made in St. Andrews Scotland exclusively for Oakhurst) hit from sand tees. The US National Hickory Championship tournament is held at Oakhurst annually in June.
The Greenbrier is also the site of a massive underground bunker that was meant to serve as an emergency shelter for the United States Congress during the Cold War.
Organ Cave, Significant fossil discoveries bear witness to the early natural history of Organ Cave: grizzly bear, nine-banded armadillo, sabre-tooth cat, reindeer and an Ice Age porcupine[7]. Organ Cave's human history is attested by flintarrowheads used by early American Indians. Evidence of early white settlers in the cave is suggested by the date "1704" scratched on a wall, but this may be a later addition since the first white settlers to Greenbrier County came only in the 1740s.
The cave has been used since before 1835 as a source for nitre (saltpeter) for the manufacture of gunpowder. During the American Civil War, Confederate soldiers under the command of General Robert E. Lee again mined the cave for nitre. The cave today has the nation's largest collection of Civil War-era saltpeter hoppers.
Organ Cave was first surveyed by members of the National Speleological Society in July 1948. For many years it was considered the longest cave in the world. As of 16 March 2009 (2009 -03-16)[update], the Organ Cave System had 38.452 miles (61.882 km) of surveyed cave passage making it the 35th longest cave in the world, the 8th longest in the United States, and the 2nd longest in West Virginia.
Tazewell County, Before the arrival of pioneers Tazewell County was a hunting ground for Native Americans. Although rare in the eastern United States, there are petroglyphs near the summit of Paintlick Mountain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tazewell_County,_Virginia
Natural Tunnel State Park is a Virginia state park, centered around the Natural Tunnel, a massive naturally-formed cave that is so large it is used as a railroad tunnel. It is located in the Appalachian Mountains near Duffield in Scott County, Virginia. (Just off the route, would require a detour)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_Tunnel_State_Park
Rogersville is a town in Hawkins County, Tennessee, United States. It was settled in 1775 by the grandparents of Davy Crockett and is the second-oldest town in the state. It is named for its founder, Joseph Rogers.
Tennessee's oldest courthouse, first newspaper, and first post office are each located in Rogersville. Much of the Town is listed on the National Register of Historic Places.
In November 1863, during the American Civil War, Rogersville was the site of a battle between occupying Federal forces and invading Confederate troops. Union forces were encamped just outside the town. The Confederates, led by Brigadier General William E. Jones, were able to surprise the Union forces and pursue them across the Holston River and into Greene County. The Confederates held the town for the remainder of the War.
Sentiment in Rogersville was divided between loyalists, many of whom supported the efforts by many to get twenty-six East Tennessee counties to secede from the State and re-join the Union. Other Rogersvillians saw President Lincoln's invasion of Tennessee as an unprecedented invasion of their homes and an incursion by Federal power; these people became strong Confederates.
Partly because of the town's mixed loyalties, Rogersville was spared destruction during the war; indeed, many of the town's buildings were used by the different occupying armies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogersville,_tn
Cherokee Reservoir, also known as Cherokee Lake, Cherokee Reservoir is named for the tribe of Native Americans who once inhabited the area. The great Indian warpath, once followed by Daniel Boone, crossed the basin now filled by the reservoir.
Cherokee Reservoir is a popular recreation destination. Along its shoreline are public access areas, county and municipal parks, commercial boat docks and resorts, a state park, and a state wildlife management area. There are many tent and trailer sites for campers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherokee_Lake
#3
Dandridge is a town in Jefferson County, Tennessee, United States. It is the county seat of Jefferson County It is part of the Morristown, Tennessee Metropolitan Statistical Area.
Dandridge is the second oldest city in Tennessee, behind only Jonesborough. The Jefferson County Courthouse, located in downtown Dandridge, contains many items of local historical importance, civil war relics and a museum of local history. There are many old structures in the town of beautiful design and the area contains a large selection of exceptional golf courses.
In the 16th century, a substantial Native American chiefdom known as Chiaha was located on Zimmerman's Island, just southwest of Dandridge along the French Broad River. Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto spent several weeks at Chiaha in 1540 and Juan Pardo built a small fort near chiefdom's main village in 1567. Both expeditions were in en route to the chiefdom of Coosa in what is now Georgia. Zimmerman's Island is now submerged by Douglas Lake.
The first Euro-American settlers arrived in Dandridge in 1783, and the town was officially incorporated in 1793 as the county seat of Jefferson County, which had been created the previous year. The town was named for Martha Dandridge Washington, the wife of the first president of the United States.
On December 24, 1863, at the height of the American Civil War, a skirmish occurred at Dandridge as Confederate General James Longstreet and Union General Ambrose Burnside struggled for control of Knoxville. As Longstreet's army retreated to Morristown, a detachment of his army intercepted and routed a pursuing Union brigade just north of Dandridge. The Union troops were forced to fall back to New Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandridge,_TN
Blount County TN, What is today Blount County was for many thousands of years Indian territory, passed down to the Cherokee tribe that claimed the land upon the arrival of white settlers in the late 18th century. Shortly thereafter, On July 11, 1795, Blount County became the tenth county established in Tennessee, when the Territorial Legislature voted to split adjacent Knox and Jefferson counties. The new county was named for the governor of the state of Tennessee, William Blount, and its county seat, Maryville, was named for his wife Mary Grainger Blount. This establishment, however, did little to settle the differences between white immigrants and Cherokee natives, which was, for the most part, not accomplished until an 1819 treaty.
Throughout its history the boundaries of Blount County have been altered numerous times, most notably in 1870 when a large swath of western Blount was split into Loudon and portions of other counties. Also, the establishment of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park in 1936, while not affecting the territory of Blount County, has significantly impacted the use of southeastern Blount County
Dandridge is the second oldest city in Tennessee, behind only Jonesborough. The Jefferson County Courthouse, located in downtown Dandridge, contains many items of local historical importance, civil war relics and a museum of local history. There are many old structures in the town of beautiful design and the area contains a large selection of exceptional golf courses.
In the 16th century, a substantial Native American chiefdom known as Chiaha was located on Zimmerman's Island, just southwest of Dandridge along the French Broad River. Spanish explorer Hernando de Soto spent several weeks at Chiaha in 1540 and Juan Pardo built a small fort near chiefdom's main village in 1567. Both expeditions were in en route to the chiefdom of Coosa in what is now Georgia. Zimmerman's Island is now submerged by Douglas Lake.
The first Euro-American settlers arrived in Dandridge in 1783, and the town was officially incorporated in 1793 as the county seat of Jefferson County, which had been created the previous year. The town was named for Martha Dandridge Washington, the wife of the first president of the United States.
On December 24, 1863, at the height of the American Civil War, a skirmish occurred at Dandridge as Confederate General James Longstreet and Union General Ambrose Burnside struggled for control of Knoxville. As Longstreet's army retreated to Morristown, a detachment of his army intercepted and routed a pursuing Union brigade just north of Dandridge. The Union troops were forced to fall back to New Market.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandridge,_TN
Blount County TN, What is today Blount County was for many thousands of years Indian territory, passed down to the Cherokee tribe that claimed the land upon the arrival of white settlers in the late 18th century. Shortly thereafter, On July 11, 1795, Blount County became the tenth county established in Tennessee, when the Territorial Legislature voted to split adjacent Knox and Jefferson counties. The new county was named for the governor of the state of Tennessee, William Blount, and its county seat, Maryville, was named for his wife Mary Grainger Blount. This establishment, however, did little to settle the differences between white immigrants and Cherokee natives, which was, for the most part, not accomplished until an 1819 treaty.
Throughout its history the boundaries of Blount County have been altered numerous times, most notably in 1870 when a large swath of western Blount was split into Loudon and portions of other counties. Also, the establishment of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park in 1936, while not affecting the territory of Blount County, has significantly impacted the use of southeastern Blount County
#4
First off, you can't go wrong with the roads all over that area, so there's nothing particularly wrong with your route....however....I've taken trips up that way for a few years now, and if you can figure out the mileage, etc, here's what I'd suggest....
take 66 over past snowshoe, then take 219 down through Marlinton.
Below Marlinton, take county road 9 to Clintonville.
Pick up 60 there and follow it to 19.
Take 19 south to Beckley and pick up 16 there.
Stay on 16 down through Tazwell, and on down to Marion.
Follow 16 on down until you cross 58 in VA.
take 58 west to Damascus, VA.
Pick up 133 west to Shady Valley
Stop at Shady Valley Country Store
take 421 south. this is "The Snake".
In Boone, get on 321 south to Blowing Rock
Pick up BRP in blowing rock headed south.
You can follow the BRP all the way into Cherokee. there are tons more roads around there.
If you think this might work for you, let me know and I'll give you more ideas.
take 66 over past snowshoe, then take 219 down through Marlinton.
Below Marlinton, take county road 9 to Clintonville.
Pick up 60 there and follow it to 19.
Take 19 south to Beckley and pick up 16 there.
Stay on 16 down through Tazwell, and on down to Marion.
Follow 16 on down until you cross 58 in VA.
take 58 west to Damascus, VA.
Pick up 133 west to Shady Valley
Stop at Shady Valley Country Store
take 421 south. this is "The Snake".
In Boone, get on 321 south to Blowing Rock
Pick up BRP in blowing rock headed south.
You can follow the BRP all the way into Cherokee. there are tons more roads around there.
If you think this might work for you, let me know and I'll give you more ideas.
#5
Yeah, I am open to modifying the route. We (down around ATL) are now looking at possibly making this a round trip from the ATL area to Spruce **** and back. We may be able to incorporate many different roads now.
Keep shooting suggestions! Thanks
Keep shooting suggestions! Thanks
#6
that'd be even better because there's lots of good roads that you could go both directions and never be on the same road twice.
If you want more ideas, PM me and I'll help you out. I've been toying with the idea of starting a tour company, so I could give you some ideas and you can provide me with feedback.
If you want more ideas, PM me and I'll help you out. I've been toying with the idea of starting a tour company, so I could give you some ideas and you can provide me with feedback.
#9
that'd be even better because there's lots of good roads that you could go both directions and never be on the same road twice.
If you want more ideas, PM me and I'll help you out. I've been toying with the idea of starting a tour company, so I could give you some ideas and you can provide me with feedback.
If you want more ideas, PM me and I'll help you out. I've been toying with the idea of starting a tour company, so I could give you some ideas and you can provide me with feedback.
#10
Your missing a great road to the East of the starting area. Rt. 211 is the windy part of the mountains up there in VA. It is now patrolled but it is very good for a sport bike to ride along
http://www.motorcycleroads.us/roads/va_us211.html
http://www.motorcycleroads.us/roads/va_us211.html
#13
We spent some time camping at Spruce **** with our kids man moons ago. Very nice country down there, about 3 hrs. south of me. Post dates/itinerary when you decide and I'll try to scoot down there and meet up with yall, and maybe ride along for a while.
I can remember Spruce ****, sitting in front of our campfire at 2 am, kids sleeping, clear skies, and there was absolutely no sound at all, just an eerie total silence. Only time I can recall total silence. Crazy experience. Now i got myTinnitis to keep me company
I can remember Spruce ****, sitting in front of our campfire at 2 am, kids sleeping, clear skies, and there was absolutely no sound at all, just an eerie total silence. Only time I can recall total silence. Crazy experience. Now i got myTinnitis to keep me company
#14
It really is a very nice place to go. I love going over to the mountains of WV. (even though I am partial since I grew up in WV
I have been talking to a buddy of mine who may follow along in his car and carry supplies. I am going to get a tentative date with him set aside and bounce it off some of the ATL riders down here. I will post something once I know more. We will do a round trip from ATL to Spruce, and back down the Blue Ridge Parkway it looks like at this point.
I have been talking to a buddy of mine who may follow along in his car and carry supplies. I am going to get a tentative date with him set aside and bounce it off some of the ATL riders down here. I will post something once I know more. We will do a round trip from ATL to Spruce, and back down the Blue Ridge Parkway it looks like at this point.
#15
Planning on doing the opposite route from Central MA to Deal's Gap area in Sept. Thinking Blue Ridge Pkway down, W. VA to the Catskills coming back. A week to 9 days. Destination is less critical than the quality of the ride..........
PM me if you're interested...
Scott
PM me if you're interested...
Scott
#16
Where ever you go around that area will be great. Just got back from N.C last wk (may 12th). Homebase was in Mooresville at a cousins place and rode to the gap and around the area. The Gap is closed untill Mid-July. You can ride from the NC side half way to the Tenn side but you have to cut off at the Foothills Parkway. THe CHarohala Skyway is right in that area and the Blueridge pkwy. Both nice rides. We were fortunate to find a rode called 19W. right along the NC/Tenn border. Its hard to find on a map and doesnt really go anywhere...but the ride is GREAT. NO TRAFFIC, smooth road, BEAUTIFUL scenery, switchbacks are a bit more mild but a great ride.
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