What did you do with your SuperHawk today?
12-30-2014, 03:15 PM
#1111
blah blah blah
Squid
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: El Paso
Posts: 9
I put the stock jets back in and glued some cardboard on the k and n. Installed psr pair block offs. Holy freaking my god haha. Power wheelies in 1st at anything over 1/2 throttle. And im in el Paso way above the sea haha.
01-01-2015, 03:32 PM
#1113
Senior Member
Superstock
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Everett, Washington
Posts: 295
It looks like the weather is giving me a decent riding day every other week this winter. Today was sunny with temps in the 40F range so I rode over to visit my old high-school friend Charlie. We watched a Mythbusters with their third JATO rocket engine car.
On the way home a suicidal pedestrian crossed the road right in front of me. I bet she wouldn't have done that to a Harley. I must find a way to make the Hawk look more evil. Perhaps bayonets pointing out the front?
On the way home a suicidal pedestrian crossed the road right in front of me. I bet she wouldn't have done that to a Harley. I must find a way to make the Hawk look more evil. Perhaps bayonets pointing out the front?
01-02-2015, 10:36 AM
#1114
Senior Member
Superstock
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
I got started with the tear down. I spent most of the day yesterday out in the shop. I started by fixing the lights in the shop. I am getting old and I can’t see like I used to. I need a ton of light so I hung halogens around. It’s pretty bright but I could use more. I was pretty comfortable out in the shop. It's really cold here but I doubled my socks and used a pair of wool ones. I also wore a double sweat shirt and that helped.
I have the, tank, air box, fairing and carbs off. I am going slow so as not to make mistakes and so I know how everything fits together. As with every bike I buy that needs fixed and has had someone else’s hands on it, I have found some interesting things. There are screws that hold the air box to both carbs. The screws were tight on the back carb and loose and sticking out on the front. This could have been a disaster if the bike had eaten one of those screws. Also the rear POS choke mount snapped. I understand that this is normal. I ordered the replacement brass Polaris part this morning and will do the modifications. I can't wait to get back at it but I have other work to do.
The PO said he rode the a mile and it quit. I must check the vacuum petcock. The fuel lines had very little gas in them.
I have the, tank, air box, fairing and carbs off. I am going slow so as not to make mistakes and so I know how everything fits together. As with every bike I buy that needs fixed and has had someone else’s hands on it, I have found some interesting things. There are screws that hold the air box to both carbs. The screws were tight on the back carb and loose and sticking out on the front. This could have been a disaster if the bike had eaten one of those screws. Also the rear POS choke mount snapped. I understand that this is normal. I ordered the replacement brass Polaris part this morning and will do the modifications. I can't wait to get back at it but I have other work to do.
The PO said he rode the a mile and it quit. I must check the vacuum petcock. The fuel lines had very little gas in them.
01-02-2015, 11:21 AM
#1115
European Member
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 194
i FINALLY got a duo seat cover.... i found one in my color wich is quite rare
even more in the US
my hawk is undergoing some cosmetic surgery..... plan on restoring alot off things, because up close its not the prettiest hawk, it always more function then form but thats gonna change
01-03-2015, 11:47 AM
#1117
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
I finally got to the bottom of things. I got everything else stripped from the bike. I even pulled the radiators to give myself a little more elbow room. I checked the valve timing on the front cylinder and it looks great. I checked the valve clearances on the front cylinder and all were within spec. My assumption is the noise is from a collapsed timing chain adjuster and the reason it quit was a lack of fuel. I'll know more when my parts come in and I replace the OEM adjusters. According to USPS tracking they were supposed to be in on the 31st of December and, as of today, it looks like they are in Ohio somewhere. I may be waiting a while.
Since I have nothing left to do on the bike until the parts come it, I took a look at the floppy exhaust system. It turns out that the PO had jammed the exhaust gaskets down the pipe and then tried to tighten the clamps to make it tight. He managed to strip the inside of one of the clamp's allen bolts and got both of them so tight it was almost imposable to get them off. I managed to loosen the first one but I had to drill the head off the other one. I have new gaskets on order so that should be fixed.
Since I have nothing left to do on the bike until the parts come it, I took a look at the floppy exhaust system. It turns out that the PO had jammed the exhaust gaskets down the pipe and then tried to tighten the clamps to make it tight. He managed to strip the inside of one of the clamp's allen bolts and got both of them so tight it was almost imposable to get them off. I managed to loosen the first one but I had to drill the head off the other one. I have new gaskets on order so that should be fixed.
Last edited by Big_Jim59; 01-03-2015 at 03:13 PM.
01-03-2015, 11:55 AM
#1118
Senior Member
Superstock
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
My hat is off to you. Changing a tire with a modern stiff bead is no easy trick. I have mounted many a tire but this was years ago with tubes and soft sidewalls. These new tires are something else entirely.
Last edited by Big_Jim59; 01-03-2015 at 12:00 PM.
01-03-2015, 03:04 PM
#1119
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Squid
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Boston
Posts: 84
WOW Mike, I think I could get you a better rate if you shipped me the tires and wheels and I had 'em mounted locally. The most expensive mount and balanced around here is $40 and I thought that was robbery. $430 for one tire? My wife would hit the roof the way I chew through tires.
My hat is off to you. Changing a tire with a modern stiff bead is no easy trick. I have mounted many a tire but this was years ago with tubes and soft sidewalls. These new tires are something else entirely.
My hat is off to you. Changing a tire with a modern stiff bead is no easy trick. I have mounted many a tire but this was years ago with tubes and soft sidewalls. These new tires are something else entirely.
01-03-2015, 11:36 PM
#1120
Senior Member
SuperBike
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: New South Wales Australia
Posts: 1,544
Stinking hot here so rode the bike the 160k round trip to work.
Got caught in a torrential downpour and got soaked to the bone.
Bike was getting a bit tatty so a good excuse to polish her up all nice and shiny while I wait for some parts from the USA for my brothers bike. Parts are so much cheaper there than here in OZ you lucky guys.
Got caught in a torrential downpour and got soaked to the bone.
Bike was getting a bit tatty so a good excuse to polish her up all nice and shiny while I wait for some parts from the USA for my brothers bike. Parts are so much cheaper there than here in OZ you lucky guys.
01-05-2015, 05:45 PM
#1121
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
My manual CCT adjusters came in the mail today so I dropped everything and ran out to the shop where I replaced the original automatic CCTs with new manual ones. I still have not found a definitive source for the original noise. I expected a failed CCT to be floppy but it is not and neither the front or the rear timing chain was slack. Am I missing something? What does a failed CCT feel like?
01-05-2015, 05:50 PM
#1122
Senior Member
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
The ladder thing is pure genius! I was trying to figure how to block up the bike with only one person (the wife is a non-starter in the shop". This is great!
01-06-2015, 12:38 AM
#1123
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: New South Wales Australia
Posts: 1,544
Big_Jim,
Check the bike to see if it has a 4 Degree advancer.
Mine does and ever since it was fitted there is a different noise from the engine.
Sounds like a problem with the cam chain around the front cylinder.
Other owners have reported the noise when fitting this advancer as well.
2 years on and I have become used to it, however if I heard it for the first time I would think that there was something wrong with the valves, water pump, primary drive or cam chain.
It's a Metallic noise that sounds funny and hard to pinpoint.
The noise on my bike could be exacerbated by the fact that I have no anti rattle gear installed.
Check it out, it may be what you have.
There are some posts about it on here, have a look.
Check the bike to see if it has a 4 Degree advancer.
Mine does and ever since it was fitted there is a different noise from the engine.
Sounds like a problem with the cam chain around the front cylinder.
Other owners have reported the noise when fitting this advancer as well.
2 years on and I have become used to it, however if I heard it for the first time I would think that there was something wrong with the valves, water pump, primary drive or cam chain.
It's a Metallic noise that sounds funny and hard to pinpoint.
The noise on my bike could be exacerbated by the fact that I have no anti rattle gear installed.
Check it out, it may be what you have.
There are some posts about it on here, have a look.
01-08-2015, 02:25 PM
#1125
Senior Member
SuperBike
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Bisbee, AZ
Posts: 1,920
My manual CCT adjusters came in the mail today so I dropped everything and ran out to the shop where I replaced the original automatic CCTs with new manual ones. I still have not found a definitive source for the original noise. I expected a failed CCT to be floppy but it is not and neither the front or the rear timing chain was slack. Am I missing something? What does a failed CCT feel like?
01-09-2015, 06:52 AM
#1126
ole dirty bastard
SuperSport
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: my house
Posts: 975
rebuilt the slave cylinder.
and have new gaskets for the engine covers.
which I need to decide what color to powder coat them.
the loss of parts due to the sewer break put me back a year
according to my calculations on parts cost and frequency of ordering such.
so im still here. pardon my earlier meltdown!
and have new gaskets for the engine covers.
which I need to decide what color to powder coat them.
the loss of parts due to the sewer break put me back a year
according to my calculations on parts cost and frequency of ordering such.
so im still here. pardon my earlier meltdown!
01-17-2015, 02:22 PM
#1129
Senior Member
Superstock
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
Today was a VTR work day. All my parts had come in and it was time to make this puppy run. I got all the stuff like radiators and carbs back on. I took my time and straightened out the Two Brothers exhaust system. Now it mounts sold and secure. With it all assembled, except for the fairing I fired it up.
It knocks. In that the previous owner was truthful. It knocks or taps to such an extent that I didn't rev it past 2K for fear that it would explode.
I made a video. Have a listen:
Other than the knock it sounds really good!
It knocks. In that the previous owner was truthful. It knocks or taps to such an extent that I didn't rev it past 2K for fear that it would explode.
I made a video. Have a listen:
Other than the knock it sounds really good!
01-17-2015, 04:21 PM
#1130
Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
SuperBike
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Brookfield, WI
Posts: 2,312
Do you have a mechanics stethascope? If not, use a screwdriver and put the philips or standard end on the engine and the handle on your ear and try to pinpoint the tick. Did the P.O. tell you how or when the tick started?
01-17-2015, 07:02 PM
#1131
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
I talked to him tonight. He said that on first start up he could hear a small tapping but the sound of the exhaust overwhelmed it. As he rode it got louder until it made so much noise it scared him. I am pretty sure, at this point that I have a bad rod cap and I will be pulling the engine and splitting the cases.
01-17-2015, 07:28 PM
#1132
Connie Demico does toad?
Superstock
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lakeway
Posts: 383
I uncovered and warmed up the 'Hawk today. It took a few cranks but it fired up and seemed fine.
True confession- I have been working on and riding the Concours a lot lately.
True confession- I have been working on and riding the Concours a lot lately.
01-17-2015, 09:11 PM
#1133
Senior Member
Superstock
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 283
I have a Concours too! It's a really nice bike (love the bags) but it feels like a truck after my VFr.
01-17-2015, 11:43 PM
#1135
Senior Member
SuperSport
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Auckland, new Zealand
Posts: 932
01-20-2015, 04:26 PM
#1137
ole dirty bastard
SuperSport
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: my house
Posts: 975
Today was a VTR work day. All my parts had come in and it was time to make this puppy run. I got all the stuff like radiators and carbs back on. I took my time and straightened out the Two Brothers exhaust system. Now it mounts sold and secure. With it all assembled, except for the fairing I fired it up.
It knocks. In that the previous owner was truthful. It knocks or taps to such an extent that I didn't rev it past 2K for fear that it would explode.
I made a video. Have a listen:
VTR Knock Knock Knocking - YouTube
Other than the knock it sounds really good!
It knocks. In that the previous owner was truthful. It knocks or taps to such an extent that I didn't rev it past 2K for fear that it would explode.
I made a video. Have a listen:
VTR Knock Knock Knocking - YouTube
Other than the knock it sounds really good!
01-21-2015, 07:04 AM
#1138
Connie Demico does toad?
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lakeway
Posts: 383
01-21-2015, 07:11 AM
#1139
Connie Demico does toad?
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Lakeway
Posts: 383
Yeah mines the c-10. For the money you can't beat it. They live a long time with proper maintenance. They have screw adjust valves also.
A few foibles, very ninja-like, kinda high strung. The pegs are high and the bars low and the seat beats on yer nuts. Sound familiar? I've already worked those things out.
Obviously the SuperHawk smokes it but performance is fine.
I wanted an F6B but got the Connie for less than a downpayment.
01-25-2015, 03:39 PM
#1140
Senior Member
Superstock
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Everett, Washington
Posts: 295
We had a sunny mild day here in the Northwest. I got a good long ride in from Everett out to Granite Falls and back. It looked like everyone had the same idea judging by the number of riders I saw out there today. I got to use up my old tank of gas which had sat a month or two. Added an ounce of Sta-Bil to the new tankful after I got her home.
