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Old 06-11-2006, 10:38 PM
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"upgrade" path from a liter v-twin rider...

well for awhile now I've kind've quasi planned to purchase a new bike next year. I really really really want to keep the v-twin though. From what I've talked to others about is that I'll not really enjoy a 600 at all (well in a sense because totally diff powerband and I'll be lost and practically have to learn to ride again). so I've thought either gsxr750 (i wish more companies made 750s ) or cbr1000rr. Biggest concern about the 750 is we had a brand new gixxer600 out today and the general concensus was it handled like a dream but felt clunky - aka rattled a lot. everyone like the 600rr more (I didn't ride it cause I was on my bike). cbr1000rr... Well not much else to say other then they're nuts - tons of power, good torque and gorgeous. Or I could got nutty and get a tard :P what do people here think? I mainly just want something NEW that I won't have to do much maintenance on for awhile unlike my hawk. heh
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Old 06-11-2006, 10:44 PM
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Methinks you're just getting frustrated with your bike. Imagine having two bikes, and having to deal with twice as much chit.

I tried a 750 from the Superhawk. The bottom end is, of course, much stronger on the SHawk, but the 750's top end pull was real strong. I'd love to have two bikes, but from a financial standpoint it's not a good idea (for me).
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Old 06-11-2006, 10:49 PM
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oh no I've thought about getting another for awhile though agree with what you said about finances. if I can swing it I do want something newer to compliment my superchicken also all the crap I'm dealing with is with the carbs and brakes that well was my own fault. once it's tuned right and has the rear shock on I might completely forget about ever wanting anything else. but like today 2 600's owned me heh *cough passed me when I was pinned climbing from 120 and they were 150+ cough cough* hehe my hands get a lil tired with 4.5" diameter pistons screaming at 9k
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:17 PM
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I have to admit I've been lusting after the new gsxr750, that's one sweet bike and won the Cycle World best superbike award, (whatever that's worth to ya). The 1000rr is no slouch either and I'd love either one, (I love the Repsol 1000rr). If you want to ride it on the track I think the 750 would be easier to ride. just my .02
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:33 PM
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oh yeah for sure. though I plan that regardless I'd do most track stuff on my superhawk since it's getting the full treatment other then cams/pistons before winter and well lets face it. The damage I'd do to a 98 superhawk if I wrecked is going to be way less then if I did the same on a new gixxer750. plus I'd be way more comfortable with the liter v-twin. Then once I've reached the limits of that then I'd do 750. and didn't realize cycle world gave it the best superbike. I talked to a salesman over the winter and he said the 750 most definetely will win it. Hope I can get a test ride somewhere. Also fyi the 05 1000rr is way diff then the 06. the 06 is supposed to be way better suspension wise and have a slight hp boost. the 05 is def nice though. I just think 150+ hp or whatever is a weeeeee bit much


maybe I should be looking more like 2 years I'll upgrade. try and get another full season under me with this in full form (I plan for sure to have everything ironed out by the end of the year)
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by EngineNoO9
Also fyi the 05 1000rr is way diff then the 06. the 06 is supposed to be way better suspension wise and have a slight hp boost. the 05 is def nice though. I just think 150+ hp or whatever is a weeeeee bit much
Yep lighter, stronger and easier to ride they say, but I agree, a little more power than I'm looking for right now. It's a great era to be looking at bikes right now it's hard to find a bad one.
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:14 AM
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the 750 I think is perfect... 128hp I think to the rear is what they dyno'd. i just hope it doesn't feel like the 600 that they were talking about. I kind've hate to get it because of the suzuki fanboism but it's the only 750 out there I hope and cross my fingers that with motogp going to 800cc's that in a few years more technology for bikes of that approximate size will filter down to us so I can get a cbr7500rr. hehe
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:41 AM
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The 1000rr makes 150+ HP? Wow, that's pretty incredible! Does it run 9's in the quarter?
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Old 06-12-2006, 09:58 AM
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I believe it's capable. whether you have the skills enough to harness that is a diff story... I believe places have marked it as being like 149.9 whp or something. it's closer to the other bikes now. Here's last years models and the 1000rr got a revamp this year:
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I too have been lusting after the new CBR 1000rr, but that is a lot of dough for a toy...IMHO.....damn the itch, damn it man.....and I would have to pay cash for it, as I won't run full coverage insurance, since it is through the roof...so for now the SH will have to do....drool, drool....
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According to Cycle World, 149.56 but torque is up to 76 at 8500rpm.
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that's more torque then my v-twin
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:12 AM
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Yep, although a little higher in the rpm range. Of course that just means wheelies at 80mph!!!
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:13 AM
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yeah. though it's no slouch down low like I used to think. it picks up very very quick
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:15 AM
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They say the gsxr750 has a LOT more grunt than the 600 as well, one of the best on the track or the street.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:21 AM
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yeah... I just don't want a gixxer... I might try and wait longer and then get the 1000rr so I'm more ready for it. though a 750 superbike is what I want... really wish another company had one...
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:24 AM
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Yeah I hear ya. In Suzuki's defense though my buddy has had a 2000 gsxr1000 since new and he really keeps it up and has had no problems with it, (except the scratches on the fairing from trying to keep up to me whe he had cold tires!!)
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:38 AM
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actually my main complaint with the gixxers are there's so many and too many suzuki leg humpers out there. As well as suzuki's almost all being associated with squids. I don't like having a bike that's the "norm." I see many more gixxers then even 1000rr's. 600rr's is a diff story
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True dat!!
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I have the 04 1000RR and really like it, though I wish it was lighter. I'm working on that - ongoing suspension project.

The bike you guys are forgetting about is the new Triumph 675. It's the lightest of all the 600s and has more power and torque than any of them. It's skinny like a twin, has a lot of engine character, and has good looks to boot. If the RR got stolen, that would be the bike I would buy. I'm dying to ride one but it seems nobody around here has one. One of the bike mags did a review on it and had very nice things to say.
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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
I have the 04 1000RR and really like it, though I wish it was lighter. I'm working on that - ongoing suspension project.

The bike you guys are forgetting about is the new Triumph 675. It's the lightest of all the 600s and has more power and torque than any of them. It's skinny like a twin, has a lot of engine character, and has good looks to boot. If the RR got stolen, that would be the bike I would buy. I'm dying to ride one but it seems nobody around here has one. One of the bike mags did a review on it and had very nice things to say.
That is sooo funny Greg, I just logged on to suggest that bike! All though I do know some people who own them and have had some issues with them already. One being the coating on the inside of the tank comming off and cloaging stuff up. I think they'll have it straight soon though.
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Old 06-12-2006, 12:52 PM
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yeah but even 675 is tough for me to get excited about since I rode a 550 nighthawk before this so the majority of my "sport" riding has been on the superhawk
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Good thinking on the Triumph suggestion! I hear they're really quite the ticket...uh, I mean...nevermind.

One more thought to confuse you-are you set on a sports type bike? I just got the Superhawk about 2 months ago, and it was my secondary bike, my other being a Goldwing 1800. The whole reason I got the hawk was I wanted something as different from the Wing as possible. I don't always want to bring 900 lbs. of bike with me when I'm just running around town, although the wing is a better bike than anyone would suspect without riding it. My point is if your secondary bike is a totally different style of riding, I find it's easier to find time to ride each. BTW, i think the next may be a Triumph Bonneville, in a few years.
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Old 06-13-2006, 06:16 PM
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Nope!! I've got the track bug BAD, if it's another bike, it's a track dedicated bike for me. Although I see your reasoning.
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if I get a 1000rr which I'd still like to and likely would next year if I can... I'd like to keep the hawk for sentimental reasons and for it being such a good commuter
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I have to agree that sentimental attachment to the Hawk may be a problem I'd have to deal with. Some time soon KTM may just get off their ***** and get the 990 Super Duke over here. If I were to kick the tires on that ride I might just end up with two twins side by side .... well, it's a nice dream anyway...
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this is so funny. before I got the page 2 of this thread, I too was going to suggest the daytona 675. got to sit on one and they are thin and small. but in a good way. I don't think I'll ever sell my hawk, but the next bike I buy will be the daytona.
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I wish Honda would make a new version of the SH. Fuel injection, better suspension...etc. I would love a new bike too but I haven't found anything that would make me forget about the superhawk...... except for one bike but it way too expensive.....Aprilia Mille. My friend has one and he has to literly pry me off it when we switch bikes.
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they have - the rc51. like I said I wish there were more 750's
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Originally Posted by EngineNoO9
like I said I wish there were more 750's
There may be more soon with the rule changes comming in racing.
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