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Old 06-01-2009 | 06:51 PM
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SH weight 423lbs?

Does anybody know the real wet weight of '98 SH?

SH is slim and light 1000cc bike at late 90's, but weight of 423lbs ture?
Is 423lbs Dry weight or wet? Wight of tank of gas is like 20lbs?

My feeling, maybe on my head, but CBR600RR feels much lighter (more than 13lbs difference.
BTW, personally, I prefer the SH cornering feel than CBR600....even CBR600 is smooth
and faster.

2008 CBR600RR 410lbs, with full tank of gas
2008 CBR1000RR 439lbs? with full tank of gas

2009 R1 454lbs wet weight
2009 R6 414lbs? wet weight

These are today's super sports and weight about same or more than '98 SH? I was start thinking about '08 & up CBR1000RR expecting "so light like 600cc" but heavier than SH?

I know the difference of actual weight and "weight feel" depends on the center of gravity and location of the weight.

Does anybody rides any of these super sports above vs SH?
Can you tell huge difference of weight feel?
I want to know about around town kind of weight feel as much as high as sports riding at twisties.
Old 06-01-2009 | 06:55 PM
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Thats dry weight. The stock SH weighs like 490 lbs I know its 5 less than the RC51. Race trim mabe 450?
Old 06-01-2009 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rooster
Thats dry weight. The stock SH weighs like 490 lbs I know its 5 less than the RC51. Race trim mabe 450?
Thanks I thought so
Old 06-01-2009 | 07:12 PM
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It does weigh 423 lbs. if you take 30 lbs. of air out of each tire.
Old 06-01-2009 | 07:19 PM
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I never weighed mine but I figured under 500 with fuel. you can find a certified scale at a local moving company, junk yard,dump, coal plant, truck stop, etc and find out for sure.
Old 06-01-2009 | 07:48 PM
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Honda's (and other makers) "dry weight" is without fuel, oil, coolant, brake fluid, clutch fluid or battery. In other words, it's pure bullshit.

Per various motomags, a stock VTR with a full tank of gas weighs 472 lbs.
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I weighed mine a few years ago. After minor weight mods it was 435 with just over a half tank of gas. Mods are aftermarket Ti cans (at the time), removed passenger pegs, Sargent seat, aftermarket signals, removed reflectors and PAIR, and the fender eliminator.
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That sounds about right, with the greatest reduction coming from removing the heavy stock mufflers. The difference between the Hawk and many of today's Super Sports isn't that great once you take off the stock cans.

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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
I weighed mine a few years ago. After minor weight mods it was 435 with just over a half tank of gas. Mods are aftermarket Ti cans (at the time), removed passenger pegs, Sargent seat, aftermarket signals, removed reflectors and PAIR, and the fender eliminator.
Very good info. your mod. = what I have. 2 Bros Ti cans.
everything else is all same except I cut rear fender so no fender eliminator. 435 lbs with half tank is not too bad.
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Originally Posted by killer5280
That sounds about right, with the greatest reduction coming from removing the heavy stock mufflers. The difference between the Hawk and many of today's Super Sports isn't that great once you take off the stock cans.
What you are saying here is that SH is still very good conering machine with aftermarket cans, right? At least, that is what I would like to hear.
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Originally Posted by mcdoggy2000
What you are saying here is that SH is still very good conering machine with aftermarket cans, right? At least, that is what I would like to hear.
The SH handles fine when it has the most significant component: a good rider.
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Originally Posted by nath981
The SH handles fine when it has the most significant component: a good rider.
What he said.
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Originally Posted by nath981
The SH handles fine when it has the most significant component: a good rider.
I have to agree on your comment.
2 stroke 250 replicas, TZR250 then NSR250, was my younger days bike in 80's. (when I was 16~18yo) I needed some adjustment when I re-start riding at age 30 on gsx-r750 because of the weight and power especially on downhill tight turns. mid to high speed corner was not much problem actually better with biggerbike.

SH is my first sports twin and I was very impressed on the quick lean and rear tire feel on exit of corner. (this is my 2nd season on SH and add 10K mi on clock.) still I think I can ride faster on SS 600cc especially on CBR which is more forgiving and easier to ride fast.

Expert rider with ninja 250 can smoke newbies on '09 R1 on twisties right?

Assuming you are a good rider, I appreciate your feed back and opinion about current super sports vs SH if you had chance tocompare two or three. you know demo ride at delaer event or borrowing freinds bike at mountain, etc.
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I read somewhere, possibly in Motorcyclist magazine, that one of the major manufacturers is going to start listing "wet weight" on it's spec sheet. It might be Suzuki but I'm not sure. Listing dry weight is a crock.
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Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
I read somewhere, possibly in Motorcyclist magazine, that one of the major manufacturers is going to start listing "wet weight" on it's spec sheet. It might be Suzuki but I'm not sure. Listing dry weight is a crock.

That would be Honda, started with the '08 models.

BTW, with bathroom scales my naked VTR weighed 236 on the front wheel and 250 on the rear wheel, that's with half a tank of fuel.

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Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
I read somewhere, possibly in Motorcyclist magazine, that one of the major manufacturers is going to start listing "wet weight" on it's spec sheet. It might be Suzuki but I'm not sure. Listing dry weight is a crock.
Many mfgr's already list as curb weight, which is ready to ride weight..
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Originally Posted by mcdoggy2000
I have to agree on your comment.
2 stroke 250 replicas, TZR250 then NSR250, was my younger days bike in 80's. (when I was 16~18yo) I needed some adjustment when I re-start riding at age 30 on gsx-r750 because of the weight and power especially on downhill tight turns. mid to high speed corner was not much problem actually better with biggerbike.

SH is my first sports twin and I was very impressed on the quick lean and rear tire feel on exit of corner. (this is my 2nd season on SH and add 10K mi on clock.) still I think I can ride faster on SS 600cc especially on CBR which is more forgiving and easier to ride fast.

Expert rider with ninja 250 can smoke newbies on '09 R1 on twisties right?

Assuming you are a good rider, I appreciate your feed back and opinion about current super sports vs SH if you had chance tocompare two or three. you know demo ride at delaer event or borrowing freinds bike at mountain, etc.
Very Very true. The rider makes the bike not the other way around.
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