second gear wheelies.
02-20-2009 | 09:51 PM
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second gear wheelies.
I dont know what my deal is, but I really havn't been able to get nasty air on a second gear wheelie. I will accelerate out hard, slip the clutch and get only six inches of height then it drops down and I take off.
What am I doing wrong? In first gear a roll on will get me up as high as I want, but the only way I can get the wheel off the ground in second is a clutch up. I want MORE.........Any tips fellas.
Ps. I am a really big guy so just rolling on wont work for me like some of you little guys out there. thanks.....
What am I doing wrong? In first gear a roll on will get me up as high as I want, but the only way I can get the wheel off the ground in second is a clutch up. I want MORE.........Any tips fellas.
Ps. I am a really big guy so just rolling on wont work for me like some of you little guys out there. thanks.....
02-20-2009 | 10:19 PM
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i weigh 145 pounds, and i cant even roll a wheelie in second. i have to get to around 5k rpm, then dump the clutch at around 8k and i can get the front pretty much as high as i want. you might just need to give it more throttle (if you arent already) and try preloading the suspension when you do it.
02-21-2009 | 07:32 PM
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I would guess the best way to get that wheel up would be to drop some weight! Mine has done nealy 15,000 miles and will hapyly loft along in second with the wheel up, the twins are awsome to get up on one wheel!
02-21-2009 | 08:09 PM
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Ok , I will contribute to Hooliganism 
This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin! 
This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin!
02-21-2009 | 11:22 PM
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Ok , I will contribute to Hooliganism This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin!
This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin! 
02-22-2009 | 04:25 AM
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I dont know what my deal is, but I really havn't been able to get nasty air on a second gear wheelie. I will accelerate out hard, slip the clutch and get only six inches of height then it drops down and I take off.
What am I doing wrong? In first gear a roll on will get me up as high as I want, but the only way I can get the wheel off the ground in second is a clutch up. I want MORE.........Any tips fellas.
Ps. I am a really big guy so just rolling on wont work for me like some of you little guys out there. thanks.....
What am I doing wrong? In first gear a roll on will get me up as high as I want, but the only way I can get the wheel off the ground in second is a clutch up. I want MORE.........Any tips fellas.
Ps. I am a really big guy so just rolling on wont work for me like some of you little guys out there. thanks.....
02-22-2009 | 04:51 AM
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What might help is to go hang out at a local cruise night wearing a Deals Gap tee shirt and tennis shoes and showing off the chicken stripped tire... Then leave when there is still a good crowed in the parking lot (so you have an audience) then slip the clutch with the RPM hitting the rev limiter... and one more thing have a few beers before you leave.
02-22-2009 | 09:33 AM
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I just recently found out that my son can do 2nd gear wheelies on my bike. He said take it to about 6k in 2nd, slip the clutch quickly and it will come right up. Also what is your gearing? I went 1 tooth down on the front sprocket.
02-22-2009 | 10:06 AM
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02-22-2009 | 11:53 AM
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Ouch! your talking about my fave road! Around here the squid hang out on the strip by UT. They never venture to Deals Gap, there isn't enough girls to show off for at the Gap. lol
02-22-2009 | 06:25 PM
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Red Liner Let me know when you come down. It's only an hour from my house. It would be a blast to ride through with a bunch of Superhawks. I'll show you some of the other roads around the area too.
, but that's how you do it.
03-02-2009 | 09:59 PM
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Ok , I will contribute to Hooliganism This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin!
This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin!
03-07-2009 | 07:21 PM
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By George I think hes got it.......
So,,,,, I got up a couple narly ones up yesterday on a nice little solo ride out to lake berryessa. Just like in the video posted earlier. Accelerate out hard, slip the clutch and twist like a ************.
I know its not a big deal to you guys, but I was just so fricken stoked I had to let everyone know. I know kinda gay, but I dont care.
I know its not a big deal to you guys, but I was just so fricken stoked I had to let everyone know. I know kinda gay, but I dont care.
07-07-2013 | 05:39 PM
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Ok , I will contribute to Hooliganism This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin!
This one is a few years old . Just Fast forward to about 2:12 in the video . This is slipping the clutch in 2nd in the right RPM range for the wheelie (just watch the tach )....http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...92286&hl=en-CA Let The flaming begin! 
06-04-2014 | 10:30 PM
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I have yet to get the front up on the Hawk. Never had a problem with my 1970 500 Triumph. (Still the damn best wheelie bike I've ever had. Could go from here to next week on the back tire on that one.)
Before getting my SH, all I heard was how easy they are to loft the wheel just by twisting the throttle. No such luck. And I've ridden quite a few fire breathers in my time that would do that trick quite nicely.
Before getting my SH, all I heard was how easy they are to loft the wheel just by twisting the throttle. No such luck. And I've ridden quite a few fire breathers in my time that would do that trick quite nicely.
06-05-2014 | 05:31 AM
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There are some good Youtube videos that go over how to wheelie pretty well. I tried it yesterday for the first time, and was able to get some little ones in second gear. I'll stick to that until I get comfortable with them.
You're right, it doesn't seem to wheelie with a twist of the throttle. My friend's CRF450 would wheelie in any gear with just a little twist. I don't know how people can even keep the front end down on those things!
You're right, it doesn't seem to wheelie with a twist of the throttle. My friend's CRF450 would wheelie in any gear with just a little twist. I don't know how people can even keep the front end down on those things!
06-05-2014 | 06:41 AM
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From my humble experience, the Hawk will lift on 1st gear if you're a tad aggressive on the throttle. Slight twist @ ~4k rpms will get you up and running.
For 2nd gear wheelies, 2 things. 1, before you slip the clutch, change your standard throttle grip by moving your wrist closer to the brake. Like when you let off the throttle, that exact move. This will make your hand feel really more comfortable when twisting for a wheelie.
2, when you slip the clutch, do not let go off the throttle. I've been doing it wrong for 1,5 years before I figured it out, revving it and just as I slipped the clutch I let go, resulting in a small "bump" wheelie. Keep it steady and it will rise, maybe even faster than you think. I weigh 170 pounds and yet I lift it on 2nd all the time, stock gearing.
For 2nd gear wheelies, 2 things. 1, before you slip the clutch, change your standard throttle grip by moving your wrist closer to the brake. Like when you let off the throttle, that exact move. This will make your hand feel really more comfortable when twisting for a wheelie.
2, when you slip the clutch, do not let go off the throttle. I've been doing it wrong for 1,5 years before I figured it out, revving it and just as I slipped the clutch I let go, resulting in a small "bump" wheelie. Keep it steady and it will rise, maybe even faster than you think. I weigh 170 pounds and yet I lift it on 2nd all the time, stock gearing.
06-10-2014 | 09:35 PM
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I agree my Hawk has no problem with 2nd gear wheelies and if I am not careful on a casual 2nd gear roll on the front wheel comes right off the ground, if I get her on the pipe in 2nd she will stand right up as well.
It may be that your center of mass is too far forward on the Hawk.
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06-11-2014 | 02:05 AM
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I have yet to get the front up on the Hawk. Never had a problem with my 1970 500 Triumph. (Still the damn best wheelie bike I've ever had. Could go from here to next week on the back tire on that one.)
Before getting my SH, all I heard was how easy they are to loft the wheel just by twisting the throttle. No such luck. And I've ridden quite a few fire breathers in my time that would do that trick quite nicely.
Before getting my SH, all I heard was how easy they are to loft the wheel just by twisting the throttle. No such luck. And I've ridden quite a few fire breathers in my time that would do that trick quite nicely.
06-11-2014 | 06:42 AM
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It climbs the rear sprocket nice and slow once you get used to it. Sweet power curve. Be careful in first though, especially if you're in a food comma and needing a nap. The other day I sort of flopped leaned slightly to the right, to keep from falling off I hung on to the only thing available, the throttle. Barely saved it, no one saw all is well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkaLtXKB6Kk
Last edited by captainchaos; 06-11-2014 at 06:48 AM.
