nath981

"recall mess"(rattle my cage,haha): we really know very little to nothing about this problem other than what's been touted by a media that is uncredible, biased, controlled, skewed, and owned by corporations with agendas. Please don't tell me you still take their word for anything other than the weather or which movie star had an affair with whom. What we do know is the history and reputation of toyota and that is one of high repute. What you say is true about the early models, however toyota has continued to evolve to the top. I don't have a problem with mistakes if there are steps taken to correct these. It took many consumers a long time to realize the quality/cost comparisons with american manufacturers and gradually they have been converted. One of the reasons it took so long for americans to realize that they were wasting their hard earned dollars on lesser quality vehicles is the relatively short trade-in rate.
Spend $30,000 on any vehicle and trade it for another new one in 3-5 years and most vehicles will be great. Keep those same vehicles for 20-25 years, drive and maintain them equally, and you'll be able to separate the garbage from the treasure without reservation.

GM, Harley, Chrysler, Ford, etc.,along with the unscrupulous financials should have all gone by the wayside by this time if the system would have been allowed to do what it was supposed to do. Bailing out those who have not done their homework chronically in terms of doing what's right is similar to the parent who continually gets their kid out of trouble instead of teaching the important lessons that come with corrections and punitive measures. It's called learning to do the right thing. How long would any of us last as motorcyclists if we ignored or rationalized away mistakes made by us and others on the road. If we don't discipline ourselves to do our homework as riders, we usually pay the hard way.

I appreciate the attention to detail, quality, technology, and the relative cost that japanese manufacturers have given us over the last 50 years because they have and continue to raise the bar for all others foreign and domestic. Does anyone think that Ducati, Triumph or even the American auto makers, not to mention electronics, computers, etc., would have reached the heights they did without the high standards of products and practices of companies like Toyota and Honda, Sony and others?

I wish we as Americans could have been the ones who led others in these good ways, or at least were complicit in this evolutuion because we all lose as a culture, a society, and in terms of the future for us and those who follow.

That said, as soon as my Social Security check comes in, I'm gonna trade my SH for V-rod, and my toyota for one of them Chevys. hahahahaha

nekkid