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Old 02-04-2006, 05:59 PM
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22, you are correct....My buddy I bought the bike from is in AL he was paying $350 yr full coverage....Bring the same bike to TX....Bam to the moon., I have an excellent driving record, a truck, a car, and 2 bikes on my policy.....The area we live in is crazy.....That is why I pay $127 for liability only.....
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I can get full coverage insurance for $600Australian but insurance companys wont cover trackday accidents in Australia and even if you have a small lowside on the road without and any other veichles involved have it repaired your next insurance payment will double and your excess will be over $1000
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That SUCKS, mine will cover trackdays because it's not considered racing. As far as how much they jack up the rates that has to be figured after so your guess is as good as mine.
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Re: frame sliders??

I got ya. Makes sense.

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I've actually made my own frame sliders, with of course the help of a lathe and a mill. look similar to the ones you buy but only costed me 8 bucks in material. ill post pics when i figure out how.
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I looked into it and havent put it out of my mind yet I can get 55 or 60mm nylon rod lengths for about $30 and would like to add a little lenght to the units I have to protect a little more the only problem I have is I have heard about different nylons having different friction rateings and they dont slow the bike instead they skim off the ground and the bike keeps on going (obviously not for ever) without slowing much dont know how true it is still going to look into it ,dont know if it even makes a real difference
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i unfortunately just used mine about an hour ago, and i've got to say, while they did save the poor fellow some bad rash, they didn't slow it down. in the least. i watched my bike spin and slide its way across the road, and when it hit the curb (20-30 meters away)it was still going pretty quick. and i was only doing about 50 km/h when i low sided. wet road/grease/cold tires. what a combination. but i'd say they did an ok job. softer compound may well help slow it down,though.
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Sorry to hear about your get off twitcher but at least your ok. Any way the framesliders aren't meant to slow it down actually the oppisite they're made to keep the bike sliding and not grab anything. If it grabs then it's likely to flip end over end which would be much worse for the bike. Just be happy you and the bike made it through pretty much unharmed. Lucky, Lucky!
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Re: frame sliders??

Originally Posted by superhawk22";p=&quot
Sorry to hear about your get off twitcher but at least your ok. Any way the framesliders aren't meant to slow it down actually the oppisite they're made to keep the bike sliding and not grab anything. If it grabs then it's likely to flip end over end which would be much worse for the bike.
Ah, grasshopper, I see....I thought they would slow it down as well....Maybe a compound somewhere in the middle, to skid and slow it down without grabing....OK so we need someone to test this out...LOCO you in?!! LOL.....

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You'll get some slowing as a result of friction but like I said they want to keep it to a minimum so it doesn't toss it. That would be a tough assignment, one that would have to be well compensated to the test rider. I'm pretty straped for cash... if you've got the donor bike. :wink:
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Re: frame sliders??

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You'll get some slowing as a result of friction but like I said they want to keep it to a minimum so it doesn't toss it. That would be a tough assignment, one that would have to be well compensated to the test rider. I'm pretty straped for cash... if you've got the donor bike. :wink:
LMAO....I think Bill would donate his bike, I mean if he knew it was for such a good cause as this....Right, Dawg?? lol....
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All in the name of science!
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All in the name of science!
How bout it Bill, you up for it?...Science....Take one for the team Buddy....
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Originally Posted by cliffhangerstx";p=&quot
Originally Posted by superhawk22";p=&quot
You'll get some slowing as a result of friction but like I said they want to keep it to a minimum so it doesn't toss it. That would be a tough assignment, one that would have to be well compensated to the test rider. I'm pretty straped for cash... if you've got the donor bike. :wink:
LMAO....I think Bill would donate his bike, I mean if he knew it was for such a good cause as this....Right, Dawg?? lol....
LOL Randy you're killing me

May find out on my own Monday...but I hope not.
I was wondering how protect the engine cases.

I guess when you slide out with frame sliders the stuff that gets scratched up is:
Cans
Connector pipes
maybe the tail fairing
Maybe the side fairings
bar ends
brake/ clutch levers
turn signals
mirrors
clutch and/or stator side engine cases
pegs - shifter/brake levers too

I'm thinking for track days it might be a good idea to have some old rashed cans, pipes, tail fairing, side fairings (or maybe a sharkskinz race fairing) and some case covers.

Just don't know where to get case covers.
I've seen billet cases with sliders on some race bikes but don't think they make them for the VTR.

I did find a new SharkskinzRace fairing for $287
Now If I could find some $4 Krylon rattle can paint in just the right shade of blue.....
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Old 02-09-2006, 08:48 AM
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Re: frame sliders??

Wonder if the swing arm & lower forks get rashed up too in a low side~?
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I'd be more than happy to crash-test Bill's VTR in the name of science. We are talking about just a standard low-side right? I don't do high-sides anymore, not since I made that video I posted.
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Re: frame sliders??

8) 8) duno....I will be getting some when I get back...I think I will go with the cheaper ones I found, and modify the mount, without cutting the fairing....
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LOL.....We already have a dummy, um I mean test subject to crash it...we just need Bill's bike....lol.....though two test subjects...hmmmm
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My buddy lowsided his gsxr on the track semi-low speed and his cases were fine. Rashed lower fairing, midpipe, can bent brake lever. Where did you find the shakskinz for that price, got any more?
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Re: frame sliders??

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LOL.....We already have a dummy, um I mean test subject to crash it...we just need Bill's bike....lol.....though two test subjects...hmmmm
Hey now I'm willing to sacrafice my body for science and that's the thanks I get!! Sheez some people.
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LMAO.....No, you misunderstand.....what I ment to say was, we have all of the appropriete personel for the this particular test....other volenteers will be evaluated and assigned as the project progresses....so you see, in it's simplest form, what I am saying is "YOU DA MAN"!! lol....

on a side note, got the e-mail concerning shipping of the tires....Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by superhawk22";p=&quot
My buddy lowsided his gsxr on the track semi-low speed and his cases were fine. Rashed lower fairing, midpipe, can bent brake lever. Where did you find the shakskinz for that price, got any more?
sharkskinz race upper $287
http://cyclemall.net/sharkhonvtr1k.html
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sharkskinz race upper $292
http://whitebuffaloracing.com

I want to see your crash video !!! (grins in morbid fascination)
Got a link to it?
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Originally Posted by CNI Dawg";p=&quot
Originally Posted by cliffhangerstx";p=&quot
Originally Posted by superhawk22";p=&quot
You'll get some slowing as a result of friction but like I said they want to keep it to a minimum so it doesn't toss it. That would be a tough assignment, one that would have to be well compensated to the test rider. I'm pretty straped for cash... if you've got the donor bike. :wink:
LMAO....I think Bill would donate his bike, I mean if he knew it was for such a good cause as this....Right, Dawg?? lol....
LOL Randy you're killing me

May find out on my own Monday...but I hope not.
I was wondering how protect the engine cases.

I guess when you slide out with frame sliders the stuff that gets scratched up is:
Cans
Connector pipes
maybe the tail fairing
Maybe the side fairings
bar ends
brake/ clutch levers
turn signals
mirrors
clutch and/or stator side engine cases
pegs - shifter/brake levers too

I'm thinking for track days it might be a good idea to have some old rashed cans, pipes, tail fairing, side fairings (or maybe a sharkskinz race fairing) and some case covers.

Just don't know where to get case covers.
I've seen billet cases with sliders on some race bikes but don't think they make them for the VTR.

I did find a new SharkskinzRace fairing for $287
Now If I could find some $4 Krylon rattle can paint in just the right shade of blue.....
In both my lowsides at about 100kph my oggy's slowed the bike fairly well and the damages was
Cans = yes
Connector pipes =no
maybe the tail fairing = no
Maybe the side fairings =yes
bar ends =yes
brake/ clutch levers =yes
turn signals + i have flush mounts so no
mirrors =no
clutch and/or stator side engine cases =no
pegs - shifter/brake levers too = no
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Not you...unless you're Valentino Rossi! :wink:
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Re: frame sliders??

I've low sided 3 times with no sliders. Here's what got damaged:

Shifter
Brake pedal
bar ends
levers
flush mounts
mirrors
mid-pipes
mufflers
rear cowl
side fairings
case cover (not stator)

Considering what happened, the bike held up really well. I believe if I had sliders on that might protect the exhaust, fairing and engine.
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on a side note, got the e-mail concerning shipping of the tires....Thanks!!
Funny thing is I thought it would be cheaper to ship without a box....WRONG!! Cost me $33 bucks instead of $25 DOH!!!

Sorry it took so long.
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Dang, and you didn't overnight them?
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