Factory Pro +4 ignition advance rotor for...?
05-30-2015 | 08:26 AM
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Factory Pro +4 ignition advance rotor for...?
Because of my engine build, I can't use this Factory Pro +4 ignition advance rotor anymore. I wondered if anyone here with access to the right machines might want to take on making a couple dozen of these, or however many to make it profitable. Or heck, maybe scan it and make the data available.
Just thought I would throw it out there.
Just thought I would throw it out there.
05-30-2015 | 01:02 PM
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I'm not sure what you mean by your comment of filing another flat.
I removed this FP rotor, because I'm installing Webcams (grind #189), JE 11.5:1 pistons and ported heads in my engine. With other engine builds like this, it was recommended that the FP rotor be removed, because of too much advance. So, I swapped back to a stock rotor.
No calling dibs yet. Not sure what I'm doing with it in the future
05-31-2015 | 08:58 AM
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05-31-2015 | 09:50 AM
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I am great with CAD design in Solidworks and could draw a model of it that can be used to make blueprints for a machine shop
Looks like it is stamped possibly, could be hard to replicate to be honest
Looks like it is stamped possibly, could be hard to replicate to be honest
04-24-2016 | 11:08 PM
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Has anyone tried cutting out the center of a stock gear, spin it 4 degrees, and then welding it back together?
I just ordered 4 of the stock pieces from Partzilla. They're only about $7 each. I figure I can experiment a little.
Bill
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I just ordered 4 of the stock pieces from Partzilla. They're only about $7 each. I figure I can experiment a little.
Bill
Annapolis, MD
04-25-2016 | 05:00 AM
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I have several of the stockers laying around too. Never thought about cutting and welding the stock one. One thing to note, I am not sure you can just cut it and rotate it 4 degrees. But now you have me curious. I will look on the Factory Pro gear and see how far it is rotated compared to stock. It wouldn't be very hard to cut the center out with a hole saw and then tig weld it back together.
04-25-2016 | 05:14 AM
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I count 25 splines so if shifted by 1 tooth timing would change by 360/5= 14.4 degrees.
04-25-2016 | 06:40 AM
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Concerning cutting and welding the stock rotor, it's four degrees of crankshaft rotation.
04-25-2016 | 04:25 PM
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I'm toying with the idea of contacting one of my pals who used to work for HRC and trying to obtain the mapping data for the ECU and using that to have mine flashed locally. The initial advance of 4 degrees works really well, but needs to be retarded back to stock or maybe even slightly below stock above say 4,500rpm. A fixed mechanical advancer can't do that...
04-25-2016 | 05:16 PM
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If that falls through, I have a HRC unit that you can copy the data from. Just as long as it doesn't get erased, I don't mind helping out.
*In fact, isn't there a company that does a custom tune to your ICU? I am pretty sure there is a thread on here about this.
*I appologize if any of the above information is incorrect. I just had two small surgeries and I'm tripping ***** on pain killers.
*In fact, isn't there a company that does a custom tune to your ICU? I am pretty sure there is a thread on here about this.
*I appologize if any of the above information is incorrect. I just had two small surgeries and I'm tripping ***** on pain killers.
04-26-2016 | 12:47 AM
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something is written here, starting on page 4 in the middle by MK_WF.
www.vtr1000.org ? View topic - Red storm dyno - hp on engine
In short, you can just buy Ignitech unit with stock map for VTR1000F, and do whatever map you want. FP 4 deg advancer is a bit outdated technology ... :-)
04-26-2016 | 06:31 AM
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something is written here, starting on page 4 in the middle by MK_WF.
www.vtr1000.org ? View topic - Red storm dyno - hp on engine
In short, you can just buy Ignitech unit with stock map for VTR1000F, and do whatever map you want. FP 4 deg advancer is a bit outdated technology ... :-)
www.vtr1000.org ? View topic - Red storm dyno - hp on engine
In short, you can just buy Ignitech unit with stock map for VTR1000F, and do whatever map you want. FP 4 deg advancer is a bit outdated technology ... :-)
which Ignitech did you buy and use?
Do you have a part number for the specific one that was plug and play?
programmable ignition units
SPARKER TCIP4 (standard) $141
SPARKER TCIP4 (full version) $149
SPARKER HONDA TCI $145
SPARKER RACING 3 $217
SPARKER DC-CDI-P $154
SPARKER DC-CDI-P1 race $162
SPARKER DC-CDI-P2 $162
PARKER DC-CDI-P2 RACE $192
Prices for any of them are reasonable, so Im only concerned with getting the right box.
Thanks
04-26-2016 | 06:44 AM
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Erik: I bought TCIP4 (standard) specified for Honda VTR1000F. There was preload stock map, and the same connector as on original CDI. Just plug and play. Then you need USB to serial adapter that is working (with FTDI chip) and connect it with computer. Nothing really difficult.
04-26-2016 | 06:57 AM
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Erik: I bought TCIP4 (standard) specified for Honda VTR1000F. There was preload stock map, and the same connector as on original CDI. Just plug and play. Then you need USB to serial adapter that is working (with FTDI chip) and connect it with computer. Nothing really difficult.
Seeing as this is a better option then the unavailable advancer at only slightly more $$..what the heck
Email sent to order, now I wait for a reply
06-01-2016 | 06:47 AM
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Did you get a response to your inquiry? If so will you provide me with the email that you used. I am not able to find more than the description page for the TCIP4. Thanks in advance.
06-06-2016 | 06:00 AM
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Has original unit 16 or 22 pin connector ?
We can offer programmable unit TCIP4 standard with connector adapter.
unit TCIP4 standard 141 USD
connector adapter 21 USD
Freightage DHL 52 USD
Useful accessories is USB/COM cable for connection to PC 15 USD
Payment method is card payment or PayPal.
Should we send invoice to you ?
We will also need to know your phone number for forwarder.
Regards.
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06-06-2016 | 08:59 AM
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Hello,
Has original unit 16 or 22 pin connector ?
We can offer programmable unit TCIP4 standard with connector adapter.
unit TCIP4 standard 141 USD
connector adapter 21 USD
Freightage DHL 52 USD
Useful accessories is USB/COM cable for connection to PC 15 USD
Payment method is card payment or PayPal.
Should we send invoice to you ?
We will also need to know your phone number for forwarder.
Regards.
Jiri Krejzl
IGNITECH
Has original unit 16 or 22 pin connector ?
We can offer programmable unit TCIP4 standard with connector adapter.
unit TCIP4 standard 141 USD
connector adapter 21 USD
Freightage DHL 52 USD
Useful accessories is USB/COM cable for connection to PC 15 USD
Payment method is card payment or PayPal.
Should we send invoice to you ?
We will also need to know your phone number for forwarder.
Regards.
Jiri Krejzl
IGNITECH
I turned my brain on and easily found the full web site.
06-12-2016 | 03:36 PM
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08-10-2023 | 03:06 AM
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I'm toying with the idea of contacting one of my pals who used to work for HRC and trying to obtain the mapping data for the ECU and using that to have mine flashed locally. The initial advance of 4 degrees works really well, but needs to be retarded back to stock or maybe even slightly below stock above say 4,500rpm. A fixed mechanical advancer can't do that...
Anyone got their fingers on the original Honda mappnig?
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