Chicken strips bye-bye
09-02-2007 | 03:47 PM
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Chicken strips bye-bye
I just got back from a ride with my buddy into the NC mountains. We hit some nasty switchbacks. Did a little over 100 miles. After we got back he was telling me how he could not keep up. He is a veteran rider and IMO rolls pretty good. I told him yea I was in it pretty decent but she had a whole lot more. I am still respecting the power and learning the bike. He said well you dont have too much more tire to get better on and pointed to my rear. I have < 1/16" of virgin rubber left. After that I felt pretty good.
09-02-2007 | 10:03 PM
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The last time I tried to scrub that strip off my stock 204 rear I got the slide of my life, across most of 2 lanes of pavement. Banged the right peg hard enough to squash my right foot against the frame parts and leave it bruised and sore for a few days. I was able to save/pick it up about 18 inches shy of a car in the oncoming lane. I don't know for sure if it was the tire or the road surface, but I'll be keeping my chicken strip for the time being, at least until I get new rubber.
09-02-2007 | 11:30 PM
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09-03-2007 | 10:03 PM
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RIP Zy! You will always be in our hearts.
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haha. 
just kidding 
I just went on a long *** ride Sunday morning to Tennessee with a Gixxer 600, Busa Limited, BMW R1200c (my dad), some Triumph sportbike (forget the exact model name), MZ Baghira, and two KTM SMC 625's. My friend Scott, who owns one of the KTM's (wife owns the other), has no chicken strips what so ever. Sticks no knees out, just leans that thing waaayyyy over. No 320 grit sandpaper here...just good ol' fashioned leaning
just kidding I just went on a long *** ride Sunday morning to Tennessee with a Gixxer 600, Busa Limited, BMW R1200c (my dad), some Triumph sportbike (forget the exact model name), MZ Baghira, and two KTM SMC 625's. My friend Scott, who owns one of the KTM's (wife owns the other), has no chicken strips what so ever. Sticks no knees out, just leans that thing waaayyyy over. No 320 grit sandpaper here...just good ol' fashioned leaning
09-04-2007 | 06:01 AM
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09-04-2007 | 08:07 AM
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Get off the bike!
One thing to note: the specific profile of the tire can make a difference if you are worried about the chicken stripe.
I rode the Pilot Powers to 100%, both sides, front and rear. No unused rubber at all.
But, the Dunlop Qualifiers are a different story. I have riden harder and I KNOW had the bike further over than with the PPs, but I retain a small unused strip on the boths sides of the front, but the rear has seen 100% use. I can't imagine using 100% of the front.
I'd never be comfortable using 100% of the tire and still being in the seat. I know some guys do, but just understanding the physics of what is going on would scare the poop out of me. I guess being an engineering graduate and thinking back to my Physics, and Dynamics, makes me skeered!
09-04-2007 | 10:37 AM
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okay i get off my bike a bit when im during a nice leaning turn but why does it make it harder for your bike to fall over... i pretty much failed my physics class so help me understand the off the bike lean... im very much a newbie when it comes to motorcycle stuff right now
09-04-2007 | 11:46 AM
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okay i get off my bike a bit when im during a nice leaning turn but why does it make it harder for your bike to fall over... i pretty much failed my physics class so help me understand the off the bike lean... im very much a newbie when it comes to motorcycle stuff right now
09-04-2007 | 12:18 PM
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The last time I tried to scrub that strip off my stock 204 rear I got the slide of my life, across most of 2 lanes of pavement. Banged the right peg hard enough to squash my right foot against the frame parts and leave it bruised and sore for a few days. I was able to save/pick it up about 18 inches shy of a car in the oncoming lane. I don't know for sure if it was the tire or the road surface, but I'll be keeping my chicken strip for the time being, at least until I get new rubber.
As for chicken strips, I've run all the way to the edge of the rear of my Pilot Powers, but don't push the front in hard enough to get the front to the edges. I've seen what 1/2" left feels like, I can't even imagine all the way to the edge. Maybe some trackdays will fix that, but that'll have to wait until I get back from the sandbox.
09-04-2007 | 02:43 PM
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im asking why the bike can slide out easier if your on the seat completely then if your leaning off it... thanks for some free advice though maybe it can help me improve my off and on ramp turns
09-04-2007 | 03:46 PM
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BINGO!
Get off the bike!
One thing to note: the specific profile of the tire can make a difference if you are worried about the chicken stripe.
I rode the Pilot Powers to 100%, both sides, front and rear. No unused rubber at all.
But, the Dunlop Qualifiers are a different story. I have riden harder and I KNOW had the bike further over than with the PPs, but I retain a small unused strip on the boths sides of the front, but the rear has seen 100% use. I can't imagine using 100% of the front.
I'd never be comfortable using 100% of the tire and still being in the seat. I know some guys do, but just understanding the physics of what is going on would scare the poop out of me. I guess being an engineering graduate and thinking back to my Physics, and Dynamics, makes me skeered!
Get off the bike!
One thing to note: the specific profile of the tire can make a difference if you are worried about the chicken stripe.
I rode the Pilot Powers to 100%, both sides, front and rear. No unused rubber at all.
But, the Dunlop Qualifiers are a different story. I have riden harder and I KNOW had the bike further over than with the PPs, but I retain a small unused strip on the boths sides of the front, but the rear has seen 100% use. I can't imagine using 100% of the front.
I'd never be comfortable using 100% of the tire and still being in the seat. I know some guys do, but just understanding the physics of what is going on would scare the poop out of me. I guess being an engineering graduate and thinking back to my Physics, and Dynamics, makes me skeered!
09-10-2007 | 07:07 PM
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From: Hampton GA
Same here ! Its gotten to the point where I am buying 2 sets at a time just to stay ahead . Street/ Track tires wear so damn fast , But knowing that you can get more lean & grip out of em when you need it makes it worth it .
But it's soooo damn fun!!!!
09-11-2007 | 04:52 PM
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when you're sitting on the bike, and you lean it over without hanging off, your weight as well as the weight of the bike is pressing down against the grip of the tire. as the g-forces increase, you and the bike weigh more and more against that grip of the tire. if you hang off, then you subtract most of your weight from the equation. now your weight is acting as a counterbalance to the weight of the bike. without your added weight straining the tire's grip, the bike can be leaned over further with less of a risk of that tire grip giving out. the lower off the bike you get, the tighter you can turn the bike with an equal amount of grip. keep in mind though that this stuff is really only relevant with extreme lean angles at high speeds and/or really tight corners...at high speeds. most of the time there aren't situations on the street where hanging way off is really necessary. and to do so, you had better have alot of faith in the pavement. tracks are easier to trust. streets have all kinds of crap on them. learn on the track and you will see how unnecessary it is on the street(for the most part) keep in mind I live in IL. not many corners to choose from on the street anyway.
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