here us the link to the video that Rnickeymouse captured of my lowside back in September of last year. The mulholland and surrounding canyons are my local spot. about a 10 minute ride from my house.


anyways ive always wondered what caused that crash and a huge number of other people which crash in the same way, particularly at that corner. on his channel you can see dozens of people doing the same exact thing where they are mid corner, leaned over and BAM the front wheel turns sideways and sliding you go. i had never crashed before and havnt since, knock on wood, even riding at a much faster pace. im deffinatley a squid but im learning. so what causes the front wheel to all the sudden turn like that? is it a loss of traction? and why? that day i wasnt riding particularly fast paced or anything.

I think its important to note that i had just got my bike out of the shop having new tires put on maybe a week prior. the tires were deffinatley broken in so thats not an issue. but i did notice a while after that, that when they put my wheel back on they had mounted it backwards. the tire was oriented correctly but the wheel itself was backwards. i wondered if maybe the wheel being uni-directional isnt designed to take those kinds of loads spinning in that direction and possibly contributed to my crash. wondering what you guys thought the reason for that type of crash is.

 

Ham fisted front braking, IMHO.

 

the weird thing is i wasnt even using the brake. at all. i noticed how i had my fingers on the brake which i cant even remeber actually riding with my fingers covering the brake ever. i deffinatley dont do that anymore. i only cover the brake when im actually using it. but anyways i deffinatley wasnt on the brakes even a little. u can see in my pass before the crash my fingers are on it to. i awkwardly blip the throttle but still my fingers are on the brake lever although im not engaging it.

 

I just watched about 10 times, man it's tough to call. Did your foot touch [for the first time] causing a slight pull w/ your left hand? That camera angle doesn't look like an extreme lean angle. With so many crashes in that corner is there some sort of change in road surface, anything slight?

I've seen a bunch of guys wad it up there.

 

Urban dictionary:
1.
Squid
A young motorcyclist who overestimates his abilities, boasts of his riding skills when in reality he has none. Squid bikes are usually decorated with chrome and various anodized bits. Rear tyres are too wide for their own good, swingarm extended. Really slow in the corners, and sudden bursts of acceleration when a straight appears. Squids wear no protection, deeming themselves invincible. This fact compounds intself with the fact that they engage in 'extreem riding'--performing wheelies and stoppies in public areas. Squids wreck alot. Derived from 'squirly kid'

also see stunta
We were suddenly passed by a chromed out R1 and then when we rounded the bend, we saw the squid wrapped around a tree, he'd probably be alive if he was wearing a helmet.

 

i think a couple things play into why people crash there so often. first its a decreasing radius. second it does have a couple changes in road surface that if u hit at the wrong spot things really get squirly. ive hit those spots a hundred times since that crash tho and have made it past every time. the other thing i there is so many people and cars and bikes and flashing cameras and cute girls etc... standing in the middle of that corner where it is being filmed from that 1. it gets really distracting having so much going on in your line of sight, and 2. people start trying to show off and one up eachother for the chicks and the cameras so they push themselves past what they are capable of for that particulr turn. its not even the most technical turn on that stretch of road either. the few turns leading up to that take much more skill to negotiate but thats the one where everyone crashes

 

Understood, but you seemed to be holding a decent line. Trying to figure out your off...I saw no change in surface but I wouldn't in a video. Is it windy right there causing small rubble and/or sand to blow across? It looked like the front tire just gave up the ghost suddenly. I couldn't see if you touched a hard part, which could have probably sent you off if it was firm enough.
The reason I asked about the surface, if you constantly have ppl crashing it could be grinding abnormalities in the road surface, grooves that make the tire loose grip. Your pushing 9/10ths and loose a little road surface, almost like running on the yellow or white paint. That can get sketchy!

 

Camber change at the point the slide begins?