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Old 06-06-2006 | 03:23 PM
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Another Wheelie Question...

I keep reading about using the clutch to wheelie and second.....Well how exactly are you doing it...dropping the clutch,,letting out easy on the clutch etc etc.......and what RPM's are u in before you rev it up and what RPM's do u rev up to..........Can someone please eloborate (sp?) Thanks..
Old 06-06-2006 | 03:38 PM
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Rev up to 5k, don't drop the clutch but let it out fast.
Old 06-06-2006 | 05:17 PM
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I just shift into second easily and get to about 40-50 and pull in the clutch and realese the clutch very quickly without ever letting off the throttle. I would advise being very careful there not as easy as it looks.I also prefer to stand up it's much more comfortable when the bike comes up good luck and be careful you did not hear any of this from me he he!!!!
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sitdown wheelies ftw!! stand ups look too squidish. :P
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Marmalade............how fast are u usually going when u rev up to 5 k.......Also, Does it come up alot slower this way rather then doing first gear power ups.......That way just seems like it comes up so fast
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Oh, I thought you meant from a standstill. I've never popped a wheelie while moving (never tried). From a stop, I've done it a few times while trying to out-accelerate the i4 literbike next to me (at the track).
Old 06-07-2006 | 12:42 PM
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Drop that sucka above 5k and it will come up real nice and easy !! FUN !!

Ive gotten mine up in 3rd a few times with this technique while cresting a small hill, youll be carring alot of speed at that pace though so make sure you know were you are and whats going on around you...(hell in any gear for that matter... ) It will carry it as long as you want once its up there !
Old 06-07-2006 | 05:09 PM
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bounce at 4k for a nice lofter in 1st, bounce at 5k for a instant 10 o clock, bounce at 6k for an instant 11-12 o clock hahah

yeah at relatively low speed, say 40mph in 2nd if you just get on the gas, and start stabbing the clutch in and out "quickly not dumping" youll get the feel for it. take your time you dont wanna be surprised by the VTR tq machine hahaha
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Ok so in 2nd I just pull in the clutch while accelerating and then just kinda let off the clutch pretty fast
Old 06-10-2006 | 11:36 AM
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change your gearing, to 15/41, then in second at 5000rpm, give 'er and hold on.
BTW, you will want to be sitting further back in your seat.
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listen just shift into second on a long straight traffic free road accelerate some what rapidly when you hit 40 -50 mph just pull in the clutch and let it out in one quick motion without ever letting off the throttle if you sit down sit at the back of the front seat if you stand up center your feet on the pegs and lean back slightly be very careful while learning things can go wrong fast!!!
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Put one foot on the rear seat cowl and one foot on the seat, gas it hard and pull back on the bars. Make sure you've got the video rolling so we can all laugh as you fall on your ***. J/K
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
Put one foot on the rear seat cowl and one foot on the seat, gas it hard and pull back on the bars. Make sure you've got the video rolling so we can all laugh as you fall on your ***. J/K
YOu aint right.....
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Originally Posted by cliffhangerstx
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What? Oh like you're one to talk. All I was saying, (in my own twisted sense of humor way), is unless you get used to doing wheelies they can be dangerous no matter how you do them. The best thing in my opinion is to do them on dirt, (with a dirt bike smart asses), first to get the "feel" for them and it hurts A LOT less when it dosen't go right. But if you must, (and I must!) do wheelies on the street ALWAYS wear full gear, (remember who Indian Larry WAS?) and practice before you go overboard literally and make sure you have lots of room because things come up quick on one wheel and it's harder to stop. duh
Old 06-10-2006 | 05:59 PM
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hey you could sit on the tank and put your feet over the windscreen.but if your rolling film you should do a stoppie to a burnout to a wheelie.that would be something
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Now you've got it!
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Never having ridden a Hawk (I'm hoping that will change soon), I obviosly can't say for sure, but one would think considering its wide power band and its relatively low weight, the Hawk would wheelie fairly easily in 1st or 2nd gear WITHOUT using the clutch at all. You should be able to run it up to around 4K-5K RPM in either gear, then back off the throttle momentarily, then quickly go to wide open throttle and go into some nice wheelies. I've used this method successfully over many years of riding, with many bikes that didn't have nearly as good of a power to weight ratio as the Hawk has. Wouldn't hurt to try.
Old 06-10-2006 | 06:51 PM
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Actually 1st gear wheelies are even easier than that Grampi, just snap the throttle quick after about 4000 rpm lower if you're running the 15/43 gearing. 2nd is a little tougher but not too bad and the method you mention does work for that.
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I have no problems pulling first gear wheelies with stock gearing from 2500 rpm. I have over 38000 miles on mine and I don't think that my bike is any stronger than other VTRs. 2nd gear wheelies have never been my thing. I've tried before, and was mildly successful, but never really had the desire.
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Really? It's been a while since I've had the stock gearing so I could be off a bit. Is it a lazy climb? I usually like to snap it up but that's just a preference thing.
Old 06-10-2006 | 07:31 PM
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No, it pretty much comes right up. Though that was with race plastics and it's been a while since she had stock plastic on her. I'll let you know in a few weeks when I get my wheels back from powdercoating and plastics delivered and installed.
Old 06-10-2006 | 07:40 PM
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Maybe it is just a weight thing, I am about 210lb, what do you weigh if you don't mind me asking? I am also a short little bastard so I sit closer to the tank.
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mine with stock gearing comes up all the time in first. if i wack the throttle anywhere north of 4000 its coming up, fast. clutch wheelies are much more controlled. i've never gotten it to come up in 2nd. it could be the stock gearing with the rear penske raised 1/2" and front with racetechs dropped in the clamps 7mm though. that puts it at a little bit of a disadvantage mechanically for 2nd gear wheelies.
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I've just never really gotten the feel for clutch wheelies, I feel more in control with throttle. You have a point with the geometry as well I'm about a half inch shorter with the gsxr forks, shock just slightly raised.
Old 06-11-2006 | 02:04 AM
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My bike wheelies like it's nothing. 1st 2nd 3rd. I have a 15/44 combo and it will snap it up in 2nd , althogh I prefer to clutch it up. 3rd takes a little more convincing but, it is easy once you figure it out.
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watch out for those first gear wheelies they come up fast and nasty those are hard on the fork seals.and going into second at higher rpm's can put you on your *** quick.
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Originally Posted by sprhawk neil
watch out for those first gear wheelies they come up fast and nasty those are hard on the fork seals.and going into second at higher rpm's can put you on your *** quick.
It's only hard on the fork seals if you let 'er down hard. I always just nudge the throttle shut a little or let it hit redline and she comes down nice and controlled.

Superhawk22, I'm 6'2", 230.
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It's only hard on the fork seals if you let 'er down hard. I always just nudge the throttle shut a little or let it hit redline and she comes down nice and controlled.

Superhawk22, I'm 6'2", 230.
Hmm I'm guessing that your weight is further back on the seat then mine which makes it easier to lift the front. As far as the fork seals, like Hawkrider said just because it goes up fast doesn't mean it has to come down hard. :wink:
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What, are you saying my *** is big??? J/K

No, actually a good portion of my weight is upper body because I'm tall so really I can put weight wherever I want mostly by leaning up or down.
Old 06-11-2006 | 02:44 PM
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No...just saying I'm only 5'6" so my weight is more forward and it's harder for me to get back on the seat and when I slide back still have foward weight. Where as you would already be back there naturally but hey if you're self concious my wife speaks highly of the zone diet.



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