2000 yellow for $3299 1st bike hopefully
03-11-2014 | 12:55 PM
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2000 yellow for $3299 1st bike hopefully
about to go see it. the guy at the dealer has to bring it down its in a warehouse for they're "spring cleaning". so im just waiting for the call. im 6'4 and wanna see if i can fit comfortably. and im so excited 
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03-11-2014 | 05:39 PM
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Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
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Nice clean lookin' bike. I'm 6'-3" 230'ish and fit on the bike pretty nicely. There are several people on this site that are the same size and taller that ride comfortably. Honestly, the only issue I have is these skis I call feet. Size 13 EEEE and when pushed in the turns, my feet scrape the ground. I'm looking into new rearsets to move my feet a bit.
With no stickers on the fairing, has it been dropped? Look into manual CCT's if you get it.
With no stickers on the fairing, has it been dropped? Look into manual CCT's if you get it.
03-11-2014 | 08:46 PM
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im not too sure im a complete noob. but in person this thing makes a statement! i fit on it pretty well. im going to do the MSF thing. an older gentlemen had it previously and kept it in really good shape he got rid of it just because it started hurting either his shoulders or back i forgot.
Anybody have a clue what insurance would be like? i am 20 so im fearing the insurance companys right now
Anybody have a clue what insurance would be like? i am 20 so im fearing the insurance companys right now
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03-11-2014 | 09:06 PM
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I'm on high end of 40 with multiple vehicles, a home and a travel trailer insured and I pay between $100 and $200 for full coverage.
Looks like a real clean bike. Check real close for crash damage considering the fairing graphics are missing.
If you get it, definitely change out the CCT's for manuals ASAP.
Looks like a real clean bike. Check real close for crash damage considering the fairing graphics are missing.
If you get it, definitely change out the CCT's for manuals ASAP.
03-11-2014 | 09:58 PM
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I'm nearing 40 and have one speeding ticket in the last 10 years (knock on wood). With Progressive Insurance with multiple vehicles, I pay $476/year for full insurance. What pisses me off, is I pay $35/year for full insurance on my 240Z (link in sig if ya want to see it).
I completely missed that this is your first motorcycle. Have you at least ridden before? The Superhawk is a hell of a first bike.
Take the motorcycle safety course, it not only helps to upgrade your grey matter, but your insurance rates will most likely go down as well.
Did you buy it? Try to get as much history on the bike as you can. Being a "noob", we will fill you in on the positives and negatives of the Superhawk when or if it ends up in your possession.
I completely missed that this is your first motorcycle. Have you at least ridden before? The Superhawk is a hell of a first bike.
Take the motorcycle safety course, it not only helps to upgrade your grey matter, but your insurance rates will most likely go down as well.
Did you buy it? Try to get as much history on the bike as you can. Being a "noob", we will fill you in on the positives and negatives of the Superhawk when or if it ends up in your possession.
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03-12-2014 | 06:03 AM
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as of now it has a brand new front tire. hmm ill go look at it again for drops but as i can remember the paint is superb. my grandfather wants me to take the motorcycle safety class first and figure out how to ride a friends bike first so i wont buy it and then be scared to ride. but i dont think ill be intimidated at all. i really just wanna buy it now and worry about the rest later because i dont want this thing to go to anybody else i fell in love when i seen it lol
03-12-2014 | 07:33 AM
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anyone ever see this? superhawk acceleration
Honda firestorm acceleration test. - YouTube
Honda firestorm acceleration test. - YouTube
Learning on a friends bike isn't really something you should do because you are likely to dump it. Get the hawk if you like it and can get it at a good price, but search craigslist for a CB350, 360, 500, or an old 600, The suzuki GS650GL is a good first bike too because its a shaft drive so there is no chain maintenance to keep up with (it will spoil you however) or something like that. They are old and you can generally find a beat up CB for under a grand that has already been dropped a few times, ride it for a few months to a season before you jump on the hawk for a ride to the mountains with your buddies.
I love my hawk, but at 31 now I almost offed myself on my YZF600R when I was 21 (and had plenty of bikes before it, I started riding street bikes at 16) because I got cocky on it, I know I would have killed myself on the hawk.
Its really not hard to lose the respect you need for a sportbike on the street, everybody has done it at one point or another and especially with the torque the hawk has it can bike you really hard really fast.
Again, I'm not trying to dismiss you or say don't get it, just trying to share my experience with you and hope it helps
03-12-2014 | 10:14 AM
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the thing is i like a challenge. i will be as careful as possible i will learn to respect the bikes power and wont be darefull one bit. i respect you guys's helpful opinions greatly. just got done talking to a state farm agent and insurance would be 60 bucks a month which is awesome
03-12-2014 | 02:11 PM
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First off, no way is he stock gearing in that video. 80 in second gear is not stock. So his acceleration is misleading slightly. But I am curious... what kind of challenge are you looking for? Challenges should be necessary and build on each other; not pointless. The main challenge with owning a Superhawk as a first bike would be to only use 20% of the bikes potential. Why do that? It's not fun, really...
For instance, seeing how well you can maneuver a Suzuki sv650 on the track to pass other, faster bikes is a good challenge. It also takes an impressive skill and level of humility.
Seeing if you can land 50 foot backflip out of a swimming pool on your Superhawk is challenging as well, but kind of pointless and the chance of success to move onto the next challenge is less...
The way I see it, if you plan on liking motorcycles and riding for a long time, take some time and get used to them on a proper first bike. More superhawks will be on sale next year and the year after that. Maybe even better deals. You'll get to a bigger bike if it becomes a passion for you. If you won't like it unless you're on a 1000cc sport bike, then you won't last long. If you're getting it for the image and can't stand the thought of being seen on a Ninja 250r, you likely don't respect the realities and dangers of everyday riding. Everyone's been there, and most people have started on small bikes. Especially the ones still around.
For instance, seeing how well you can maneuver a Suzuki sv650 on the track to pass other, faster bikes is a good challenge. It also takes an impressive skill and level of humility.
Seeing if you can land 50 foot backflip out of a swimming pool on your Superhawk is challenging as well, but kind of pointless and the chance of success to move onto the next challenge is less...
The way I see it, if you plan on liking motorcycles and riding for a long time, take some time and get used to them on a proper first bike. More superhawks will be on sale next year and the year after that. Maybe even better deals. You'll get to a bigger bike if it becomes a passion for you. If you won't like it unless you're on a 1000cc sport bike, then you won't last long. If you're getting it for the image and can't stand the thought of being seen on a Ninja 250r, you likely don't respect the realities and dangers of everyday riding. Everyone's been there, and most people have started on small bikes. Especially the ones still around.
03-12-2014 | 02:14 PM
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I'm 6'2" and I fit the hawk a whole lot more comfortably than on any 600 I've ridden.
03-12-2014 | 03:00 PM
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anyone ever see this? superhawk acceleration
Honda firestorm acceleration test. - YouTube
Honda firestorm acceleration test. - YouTube
Back to OP's q... I'm 6'4, and of all bikes I test rode when I purchased this in 99, this fit the best. I'd like to get the peg lowering kit, but then I'd be scraping everywhere. Occasionally I get hip cramps, but pretty rare. You got the correct windscreen on there to begin with!
03-12-2014 | 05:53 PM
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with an old video cam a little zoomed in as that one seems to be, thats the angle a tank mount will give you like I used to have. My first couple of vids were very simmilar before I got my gopro
Edit: oh and for the record my first "bike" was a 1/2 horsepower 50cc garelli moped that did all of 17mph.. I used to get passed on bicycles lol. I steped up to an RD125 soon after, then a CM250, XS400, XS650, RD350, XG750 (the seca but with a 3 cylinder engine), XS1100 (it was like the Seca as well, not a cruiser), then my YZF600 (at 21 with 5 years riding experiance already).. with a few dirtbikes in the mix there as well
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03-13-2014 | 02:06 AM
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Im 6'4 and 280 and I love my hawk! Please respect the throttle on these things it doesn't take much to pull the front end up. Riding with your wrist down is a good habit so you don't goose it.
I think you will love the bike when you here it run for the first time.
I think you will love the bike when you here it run for the first time.
03-13-2014 | 07:04 AM
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I'm on high end of 40 with multiple vehicles, a home and a travel trailer insured and I pay between $100 and $200 for full coverage.
Looks like a real clean bike. Check real close for crash damage considering the fairing graphics are missing.
If you get it, definitely change out the CCT's for manuals ASAP.
Looks like a real clean bike. Check real close for crash damage considering the fairing graphics are missing.
If you get it, definitely change out the CCT's for manuals ASAP.
03-13-2014 | 07:10 AM
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It's like someone says (here in italy) that v-twins are all the same and at a low speed they tear (i don't know if it's the correct translation...we usually say it in that way). Ducati engine does, but not this engine.
03-13-2014 | 08:12 AM
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CCT = Cam Chain Tensioner
ACCT= Automatic Cam Chain Tensioner
MCCT = Manual Cam Chain Tensioner
The stock tensioners are automatic with a spring and the spring has a tendancy to break after a period of time. This can allow the cam chain to jump throwing your timing off. If off enough, you can end up with bent valves. You don't want bent valves.
Some people just replace their ACCT's periodically while others install MCCT's. The manuals have no spring. They are manually adjusted and locked down. Their adjustment should be checked periodically, but checking them once a year is probably more than is needed unless you put a ****-load of miles on your bike annually.
Personally, I believe they fail due to age rather than the number of miles on them. So, IMO, if a replacement ACCT has been sitting on a shelf for several years, it's just about as prone to failure as one that's been in a bike other than perhaps the spring isn't under tension on the shelf. The only other factor that I think contributes significantly to their failure would be heat cycles. However, I'm never risking having ACCT's in my SuperHawk again. Don't ask why.
ACCT= Automatic Cam Chain Tensioner
MCCT = Manual Cam Chain Tensioner
The stock tensioners are automatic with a spring and the spring has a tendancy to break after a period of time. This can allow the cam chain to jump throwing your timing off. If off enough, you can end up with bent valves. You don't want bent valves.
Some people just replace their ACCT's periodically while others install MCCT's. The manuals have no spring. They are manually adjusted and locked down. Their adjustment should be checked periodically, but checking them once a year is probably more than is needed unless you put a ****-load of miles on your bike annually.
Personally, I believe they fail due to age rather than the number of miles on them. So, IMO, if a replacement ACCT has been sitting on a shelf for several years, it's just about as prone to failure as one that's been in a bike other than perhaps the spring isn't under tension on the shelf. The only other factor that I think contributes significantly to their failure would be heat cycles. However, I'm never risking having ACCT's in my SuperHawk again. Don't ask why.
03-13-2014 | 09:57 AM
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Rex Kramer-Thrill Seeker
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There is also one more option. The U.K. guys on the vtr1000.org site call it the "Stopper Mod"
This modification uses the factory CCT's, and makes it so if the spring was to fail, the CCT will not let the timing jump and take out your engine.
This modification uses the factory CCT's, and makes it so if the spring was to fail, the CCT will not let the timing jump and take out your engine.
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03-13-2014 | 01:12 PM
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03-13-2014 | 06:49 PM
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The Stopper Mod is for those that don't want anything installed on thier bike that isn't from Honda. I have met several people like this and as hard as I try, I simply can't change thier mind. This is why I mentioned it.
I hold no brand loyalty to anything (heck, the Z in my sig is Buick+Datsun+Honda+Chevy+etc.). I like the challenge of finding something that works for my problem, whatever it may be, and whomever made it. Having an open mind makes life SO much easier. Some people just aren't like this.
I hold no brand loyalty to anything (heck, the Z in my sig is Buick+Datsun+Honda+Chevy+etc.). I like the challenge of finding something that works for my problem, whatever it may be, and whomever made it. Having an open mind makes life SO much easier. Some people just aren't like this.
03-13-2014 | 08:42 PM
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You can use the base to make a manual CCT. And then it can be yellow too. So it's Honda OEM looking and yellow.
Looks like I've solved it! Now just gotta go convince my buddy that it's OK to install something other than Italian based Pirelli's on his Ducati.
Looks like I've solved it! Now just gotta go convince my buddy that it's OK to install something other than Italian based Pirelli's on his Ducati.
