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Old 07-24-2007 | 04:45 PM
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Talking 190 rear

anyone else rockin a 190 rear tire? I found a smoking deal on a set of sportecs, the rear is a 190/50.

Hows the hawk handle with the 190?
Old 07-24-2007 | 05:30 PM
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Yes, others have done it. The rim is not designed for a 190. The steering will slow down. It's all bling and not worth the trouble.
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Old 07-24-2007 | 06:39 PM
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If you're just looking for cheap, Cycle Gear has sets of Dunlop 208's for 149.99!! 180/55 and 102/70 both for 149.99, don't get much cheaper than that.
Old 07-24-2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
If you're just looking for cheap, Cycle Gear has sets of Dunlop 208's for 149.99!! 180/55 and 102/70 both for 149.99, don't get much cheaper than that.
Are those any good?
Old 07-24-2007 | 06:57 PM
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They were awesome until the Qualifiers came out. Now they're still good. Seems like it goes something like Qualifiers - Pilot Powers - Supercorsas - 208's - Sportecs. Of course, this is all intuition.. Maybe you should get some more input..
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Supercorsas are better than the Q's and the PPs
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I'm not looking for a ***** out supertire, as long as I can rail through a corner with my buddies on the 1000RR's and hold onto the ground I'll be happy.
Old 07-24-2007 | 07:10 PM
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I just did a track day on the M1's and this is how my face looked as I was going around T2 at 120mph. Wow those tires SUCKED for track, just fine for street but not track!! If you're just starting out they'll do the trick but for the times I'm running it was like practicing how it feels to be REALLY fast without actually being fast.

As for the 208's I never liked them but that was just personal preference a lot of people wish they still made them just not me. If you're just riding street they should be fine, they get a little greasy on the track.
Old 07-24-2007 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkrider
Supercorsas are better than the Q's and the PPs
Have you tried the corsa III yet? A buddy of mine races with them and he swears they're just as good or better than the new SC race tires!! Not that expensive either....well as far as Pirelli anyway.
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I like the old Supercorsa and the new Supercorsa Pro. Same thing that comes on the Daytona 675 stock.

A couple of guys at the SHOG Rally were running regular street Diablos and they were getting some nice lean angle out of 'em. I switched with L8RGYZ and liked the way they felt. Don't think I'd ever run 'em myself though.
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NO not the Diablo the Corsa III it's the dual compound tire, I don't think.....no I know I wouldn't run the Diablo on the track. He was running the pro and actually liked the Corsa III better and ran faster times on the III than the pro and he's stupid fast!!
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
If you're just looking for cheap, Cycle Gear has sets of Dunlop 208's for 149.99!! 180/55 and 102/70 both for 149.99, don't get much cheaper than that.
i can get the M1 sportec for $150 or so for both, i think its a better tire. Its just a 190. I think im gonna go with it
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I hate living in Canada...a set will drop me back $350 plus 14% tax, disposal fee, installation fee...stick it up your *** fee
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I'm running M1's right now......there ok at best. If you can find them I got mine for $90 for the set but if you just want the 190 to each his own.
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Originally Posted by calitoz
I hate living in Canada...a set will drop me back $350 plus 14% tax, disposal fee, installation fee...stick it up your *** fee
DAMN!! For a hundred less I'll ship you some 208's.
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
I'm running M1's right now......there ok at best. If you can find them I got mine for $90 for the set but if you just want the 190 to each his own.
90$ a set!! where//?
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Originally Posted by calitoz
I hate living in Canada...a set will drop me back $350 plus 14% tax, disposal fee, installation fee...stick it up your *** fee
Yeah Lou, **** if you need some tires (or if you run into that problem with anything else) shoot me a PM. If you find a set in the US you want have 'em sent to me and I'll send them to you. It HAS to be cheaper that way no?
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Cycle Gear for the 180/120 set, we were blowing them out but I'm not sure if there are any left in the company anymore. That was the closeout price for anyone.
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Originally Posted by captainchaos
Yeah Lou, **** if you need some tires (or if you run into that problem with anything else) shoot me a PM. If you find a set in the US you want have 'em sent to me and I'll send them to you. It HAS to be cheaper that way no?
Thanks Beau...I might take you up on it. Thanks a lot. If you ever need anything from up here like... snow...let me know...I will send that to you...:-)..but seriously, I've been doing the scrubs thing most of the time to defer the cost and it has worked out well thus far.

BTW, getting stuff sent up here has its issues as well..AKA customs and those bastards at UPS and their "brokerage fee"..I just got burned for $50 on $20 item with shipping @$30..So the triples that I thought was a good deal ended up costing me $100...woohoo....
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I think the new 190/55 is a better option than the 50. I've been running this profile on my GSX-R 750 (same rim size as the SH) at the track and they are friggin' awesome. For street riding the advantages are probably nil, but I'm still thinking about trying one on my Superhawk. The profile provides a huge amount of rubber to lean on in the corner without affecting turn-in too much.
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I just put a m-3 on the rear still runnin m-1 on front and doin my first track day next wknd any thoughts or should I put on that extra set of pilot powers I have?
Old 07-25-2007 | 10:48 PM
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I have got about 2000 miles on my Diablos and most of that is striaght up and down street riding with no flat spot, But I get out to the curves every now and then (not much here on Oahu) but they stick like glue in my opinion
and NO FLAT SPOT. Guess they got the dual compound mixture just right for this tire.
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Originally Posted by calitoz
Thanks Beau...I might take you up on it. Thanks a lot. If you ever need anything from up here like... snow...let me know...I will send that to you...:-)..but seriously, I've been doing the scrubs thing most of the time to defer the cost and it has worked out well thus far.

BTW, getting stuff sent up here has its issues as well..AKA customs and those bastards at UPS and their "brokerage fee"..I just got burned for $50 on $20 item with shipping @$30..So the triples that I thought was a good deal ended up costing me $100...woohoo....
Just make a road trip and change the tires while down here.
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The superhawk has a 5.5" rim designed for a 180, you need a 6" rim to properly handle the handle the 190. The tire will crown wrong on a 5.5" rim.
Besides why run a 190? They are only on the one liters for looks. A 180 is a way better size. Why do you think professionals and serious amatuers always run a 180 no matter if its a 600, 750, or 1000. The shape of the 180 makes it easy to switch back and forth, the 190 makes cornering more sluggish. But then again they do look cool. Why not run a 290? Just my .02...
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You should send a PM to XLSR-VTR1. He's got a 190 mounted. I've seen it on his bike and it does look good. He could probably tell you first hand how it's working for him though.
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Originally Posted by Speed_Demon
.... Why do you think professionals and serious amatuers always run a 180 no matter if its a 600, 750, or 1000.
where'd you get that info? Dennis Smith from Sporttire.com, the west coast distributor of Dunlop tires, personally recommended 190/55 to me. I asked him if he was sure, and he specifically said these are the ones I should run for trackday use on a 5.5 in rim. The following table is from the website and states that the 190/55 can be used on a 5.5 or 6 rim size.

http://dunlopracing.com/fitment.htm

This is much different than the 190/50 profile which is not recommended for a 5.5 rim. This is the tire (US made 209 JLB Construction) I am using right now:

http://dunlopracing.com/special.htm

For those guys that are using street tires on a track, why are you trying to go so cheap? I'd rather spend a few extra bucks on good sticky tires rather than spending a whole lot more later on a broken bike or worse yet a broken body.
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+1 Most of the expert CCS and Wera guys I talk to are all running the 190/55 if they're running Dunlop because they have a larger contact patch. The Dunlop 190/55 is made for the 5.5 but a 190/50 is not and I wouldn't run that because you will have a very small contact patch until it wears down.

Kevin, I usually DON'T run street tires anymore on the track but was broke and jonesin so I ran it, the only good thing is it forces you to be smooth or get bucked!! At a novice pace though I would run street tires all day long and not think twice about it. I know guys that run expert pace on street tires and actually ran lower times on the M 1's than I did on my race tires,(although I had to be careful), and I actually liked the feel of the Qualifiers better than I liked the Power Race PR5. All that said race tires will give more feedback though.
Old 07-26-2007 | 05:34 PM
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Well i got the 190/50 120/70 set mounted!! It rides like a different motorcycle now. Havent got to try it out in the twisties yet but it handles way different. Its going to take some getting used to i think but ill let you know in a few days after i get some mileage on it if i like it or not. It does look pretty sick!!
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
+1 Most of the expert CCS and Wera guys I talk to are all running the 190/55 if they're running Dunlop because they have a larger contact patch. The Dunlop 190/55 is made for the 5.5 but a 190/50 is not and I wouldn't run that because you will have a very small contact patch until it wears down.

Kevin, I usually DON'T run street tires anymore on the track but was broke and jonesin so I ran it, the only good thing is it forces you to be smooth or get bucked!! At a novice pace though I would run street tires all day long and not think twice about it. I know guys that run expert pace on street tires and actually ran lower times on the M 1's than I did on my race tires,(although I had to be careful), and I actually liked the feel of the Qualifiers better than I liked the Power Race PR5. All that said race tires will give more feedback though.
Nah, you I don't worry about, because I know that you know what you're doing out there! Although it's safer than the street, the track is no joke, and I always encourage people to go with the best tire they can afford. I think Michelin has the 190/55 also in their Pilot Power and 2ct tires. I'm sure a Power Race tire in that profile is around the corner as well.

joshn569 sorry to hijack your thread, I realize you're picking tires for the street, but IMHO I think you are making a mistake with those tires. Your rear is now multi-radiused and handling will suffer. Regardless, if you must you them, please be careful on those things...


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