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Old 06-05-2006 | 07:53 AM
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15/43 = heaven!

Following the lead of IceBud, I recently changed the gearing on my VTR to 15/43 (had tried 16/43 and 15/41 previously) and LOVE the result. While I was concerned about it being geared too low for freeway and long-distance riding, it seems ok (15 mph per 1000 rpm in top gear). This equates to 5000 rpm at 75 mph (plenty fast if I want to keep my licence). The best part is that it just explodes forward when I turn the throttle (of course, my other mods, including the light flywheel and RC45 throttle, help matters too). I am very happy and am now looking forward to getting the 520 set-up I picked up from CNIDawg for the additional 2-3 hp it supposedly unleashes (not to mention the quicker response due to reduced inertia). I just have to figure out a way to wipe this silly grin off my face.....

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Old 06-05-2006 | 09:03 AM
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Sounds like a very satisfying mod! Enjoy twisting the throttle and zooming off! Better change that sig line now.
Old 06-05-2006 | 11:26 AM
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every time I have tried to change it it rejects it as being too long (even when I actually shorten it), not sure what is up with that. Mind you, I haven't tired with the new host though
Old 06-05-2006 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mikstr
Following the lead of IceBud, I recently changed the gearing on my VTR to 15/43 (had tried 16/43 and 15/41 previously) and LOVE the result. While I was concerned about it being geared too low for freeway and long-distance riding, it seems ok (15 mph per 1000 rpm in top gear). This equates to 5000 rpm at 75 mph (plenty fast if I want to keep my licence). The best part is that it just explodes forward when I turn the throttle (of course, my other mods, including the light flywheel and RC45 throttle, help matters too). I am very happy and am now looking forward to getting the 520 set-up I picked up from CNIDawg for the additional 2-3 hp it supposedly unleashes (not to mention the quicker response due to reduced inertia). I just have to figure out a way to wipe this silly grin off my face.....

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I've also heard of guys being pleased with the 15/41 setup. I guess it just depends on how much difference from the stock gearing you're looking for.
Old 06-05-2006 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mikstr
every time I have tried to change it it rejects it as being too long (even when I actually shorten it), not sure what is up with that. Mind you, I haven't tired with the new host though
Yeah, I had that problem too. Selling my GSXR solved it... :O
Old 06-05-2006 | 02:47 PM
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How much highway riding do you do... Id think running at 5k for any distance would kinda suck . Vibration and just overall noise level wise. What do you use your bike for primarily, just fun hooligan riding ?
Old 06-05-2006 | 03:19 PM
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Most of my riding is sport-touring in nature. While it does rev a bit high for high speed superslabbing compared to the stock set-up, my other mods (see previous threads about intake mods and bar end weights) help keep the engine smooth. Noise is not much of an issue as I wear ear plugs but wind noise far exceeds the engine noise anyhow. One positive thing is that having it rev more quickly keeps me riding at a more reasonable pace. Besides, the rush I get every time I roll on the throttle makes it all worthwhile (makes overtaking a real blast!!!!). Finally, on anything other than freeway riding it is the cat's meow. Next time I buy a new sprocket combo I may actually go to 15/42 to split the difference between the 41 and 43 but for now, I'll just keep grinning

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Old 06-05-2006 | 07:47 PM
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I have been running a 520 with the 15/43 for 2 seasons now and like it. I actually need to change my rear sprocket this year and I will be giving a 44 tooth sprocket a whirl.
I love the wicked snap that the gearing gives our bikes so much that I have to try for more
Old 06-05-2006 | 07:54 PM
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I just put a 43 on the rear, I am leaving the front stock for now, to see how I like it...I only need a little extra snap for two up riding...
Old 06-05-2006 | 08:01 PM
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I love my 15/43 for the tighter stuff but the roads down here are straight and boring so I use a 15/41 for the street. It still has more punch but keeps the RPM's down, if you don't do a lot of open road riding then I highly reccomend the 15/43.
Old 06-05-2006 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
I love my 15/43 for the tighter stuff but the roads down here are straight and boring so I use a 15/41 for the street. It still has more punch but keeps the RPM's down, if you don't do a lot of open road riding then I highly reccomend the 15/43.
As I stated in the other post I am going to do some longer runs this summer, so I don't want to get too carried away with sprocket change....If I like the 16/43 then I may go with the 15/43, but I will keep the 530...
Old 06-05-2006 | 08:33 PM
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I think you'll probably like the 16/43 just fine.
Old 06-05-2006 | 08:40 PM
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I love the 15/43 setup. Mostly commuter type riding, with the occasional longer haul. I did ~350 miles two weekends ago and it wasn't bad at all. I do find 5th gear almost useless now though. I don't think I'd do the 500 miles to Dayton OH from DC I did last fall, might go back to stock for that. But with the 15/43 you don't have to change the chain out from stock, so it's all good. Plus if you know someone with a rearstand wherever you're travelling long distance to, you can swap out for the twisty stuff when you get there!
Old 06-09-2006 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by superhawk22
I think you'll probably like the 16/43 just fine.
So how far off will the speedo be now with the 16/43 setup? and what will it do to the odemeter? as far as actual miles on the bike? Is there a way to figure it out?
Old 06-09-2006 | 02:33 PM
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Look at all those posts. I'm surprised you haven't managed to come across this before. IIRC, it was about 7%.. and I check my calculator... 1 - 41/43 = .0465 or 4.65%. I think that's the math. Could be 1 - 43/41 (4.87%) but I think that is going from a 43 to a 41. Someone will confirm or deny.
Old 06-09-2006 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cliffhangerstx
So how far off will the speedo be now with the 16/43 setup? and what will it do to the odemeter? as far as actual miles on the bike? Is there a way to figure it out?
Stock gearing & speedo is about 5% off - reads faster than actual speed.
Go to the Speedohealer website & use their gear calculator for changes to stock gearing
http://speedohealer.com/eng/adjust.htm
It's the "On-Line Calculator" button top center of page

I used a Speedohealer on mine with the 15/43 setup to correct the speedo reading.
I used a -15.6% correction factor with a new tire (yes it takes tire wear into account too!)
I'm kept the speedohealer to put on the CBR600RR
Old 06-09-2006 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CNI Dawg
Stock gearing & speedo is about 5% off - reads faster than actual speed.
Go to the Speedohealer website & use their gear calculator for changes to stock gearing
http://speedohealer.com/eng/adjust.htm
It's the "On-Line Calculator" button top center of page

I used a Speedohealer on mine with the 15/43 setup to correct the speedo reading.
I used a -15.6% correction factor with a new tire (yes it takes tire wear into account too!)
I'm kept the speedohealer to put on the CBR600RR
So according to that I would be 10.6 speed and 5.6 odo....does that sound right? So at 100mph I am really only doing 90mph.....
Old 06-09-2006 | 08:05 PM
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I'm pretty sure the speedo and the tach are in sync. When you correct one, you correct both.
Old 06-09-2006 | 08:14 PM
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What ScooberHawk says. SpeedoHealer says (including standard factory speedo-over-reading of 7.1% which mine was) your speedo could be off by 18%! Your speedo might say 75 but you're really only going 61.5 mph. I'd GPS it if I were you at a sustained 60mph (more if you can bear it for more than 3 minutes) and note the difference. After I adjusted everything for my 15T I was 14.1% off.
Old 06-09-2006 | 08:46 PM
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Have a look at the link I posted in the Knowledge Base section (that is, after all, why I posted it there as this very topic comes up about as often as tire or oil questions *sigh*). It allows you to calculate speed vs rpm for any possible gearing combo. AS far as the odometer goes, it is dead-on with stock gearing (for Canadian VTRs anyhow, tried on a test strip of highway in Manitoba a few years back)

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Old 06-09-2006 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mikecronis
What ScooberHawk says. SpeedoHealer says (including standard factory speedo-over-reading of 7.1% which mine was) your speedo could be off by 18%! Your speedo might say 75 but you're really only going 61.5 mph. I'd GPS it if I were you at a sustained 60mph (more if you can bear it for more than 3 minutes) and note the difference. After I adjusted everything for my 15T I was 14.1% off.
I have a gps , I will throw that on and hit the bricks and see what it says, that should be the most accurate of all....
Old 06-10-2006 | 09:32 AM
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How do gearing changes effect the speedo? Doesn't the speedo reading come off the front wheel? If so, gearing changes won't effect it. Every bike I've ever had got it's speedo input from the front wheel.
Old 06-10-2006 | 11:24 AM
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The VTR's speedo is driven from the countershaft, therefore, gearing changes DO affect speedo readings.

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Now you're just showing you're age Grampi, come with us into the 20th century. J/K
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