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09-25-2008, 05:52 PM
#181
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I remember seeing a picture, of US Marines going through a Iraqi Military barracks during the war.
On the wall was a large painting of the twin towers as the planes were crashing into them...... They used it as a gloryous "death to America" tribute, sorry for me thats enough.
I know the intel now says Iraqi Govt had NOTHING to do with 9/11..... but we were looking for a fight and figured this was a good time to take Saddam out... so we did.. and i still stand by what i said, imagine how many terrorists would have been trained there since 9/11
I will say this, i am sure we all love America and only want things to be fair and even for all people here. More Americans should learn to be proud to be "American" again...and sometimes, being American means pissing off the french....
Jim TT .... may I recommned a book, "The Forgotten Soldier" Guy Sajer...
On the wall was a large painting of the twin towers as the planes were crashing into them...... They used it as a gloryous "death to America" tribute, sorry for me thats enough.
I know the intel now says Iraqi Govt had NOTHING to do with 9/11..... but we were looking for a fight and figured this was a good time to take Saddam out... so we did.. and i still stand by what i said, imagine how many terrorists would have been trained there since 9/11
I will say this, i am sure we all love America and only want things to be fair and even for all people here. More Americans should learn to be proud to be "American" again...and sometimes, being American means pissing off the french....
Jim TT .... may I recommned a book, "The Forgotten Soldier" Guy Sajer...
09-25-2008, 06:05 PM
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Agreed. Ultimately we all want the same thing.
09-25-2008, 06:30 PM
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I remember seeing a picture, of US Marines going through a Iraqi Military barracks during the war.
On the wall was a large painting of the twin towers as the planes were crashing into them...... They used it as a gloryous "death to America" tribute, sorry for me thats enough.
I know the intel now says Iraqi Govt had NOTHING to do with 9/11..... but we were looking for a fight and figured this was a good time to take Saddam out... so we did.. and i still stand by what i said, imagine how many terrorists would have been trained there since 9/11
I will say this, i am sure we all love America and only want things to be fair and even for all people here. More Americans should learn to be proud to be "American" again...and sometimes, being American means pissing off the french....
Jim TT .... may I recommned a book, "The Forgotten Soldier" Guy Sajer...
On the wall was a large painting of the twin towers as the planes were crashing into them...... They used it as a gloryous "death to America" tribute, sorry for me thats enough.
I know the intel now says Iraqi Govt had NOTHING to do with 9/11..... but we were looking for a fight and figured this was a good time to take Saddam out... so we did.. and i still stand by what i said, imagine how many terrorists would have been trained there since 9/11
I will say this, i am sure we all love America and only want things to be fair and even for all people here. More Americans should learn to be proud to be "American" again...and sometimes, being American means pissing off the french....
Jim TT .... may I recommned a book, "The Forgotten Soldier" Guy Sajer...
I went to do my Sam's shopping trip today and ran into an old friend. Manuel has been working the floor for most of the twenty years that I have been going to this store.
I make sure that I have all my barcodes up and readable. He shoots my cart - no need to transfer - here's your receipt. Real smooth - real _ key.
Manuel has checked me out numerous times and he just tells the cashier - shoot and go!
While I am waiting in the line me he tells me that he has never voted. His family has been here for three generations and he has never voted. He's got kids in college and a full time job at Sam's and he does it a day at a time.
I tell him that I have voted in nearly every election since I was 21 yo. I voted for change as it was promised. Never happened.
His response, "They're all crooks"
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09-25-2008, 06:39 PM
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Duck 007 +1
74 Thanks my friend
Nu Hawk //// FYI I am French. JIM
74 Thanks my friend
Nu Hawk //// FYI I am French. JIM
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09-25-2008, 06:58 PM
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I don't vote out of loyalty to any party. I'm a registered Republican, but I'll vote for whoever best meets my ideals. McCain is far from my ideal choice, but Obama isn't even in the ballpark.
The reason I'm Republican is that California doesn't have an open primary, otherwise I'd probably register Independent and say screw the Dems and Republicans.
The reason I'm Republican is that California doesn't have an open primary, otherwise I'd probably register Independent and say screw the Dems and Republicans.
09-25-2008, 08:25 PM
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Just trying to spur the dogs, Jim!
09-25-2008, 08:54 PM
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spur the dogs, what the hell;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpB9OoOU02M
YouTube - McCant
Of course the Obama '08 sign at the end is bull **** 'cause on this issue McAmnesty and O'Bamnesty are the same guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpB9OoOU02M
YouTube - McCant
Of course the Obama '08 sign at the end is bull **** 'cause on this issue McAmnesty and O'Bamnesty are the same guy.
09-25-2008, 08:58 PM
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09-25-2008, 08:59 PM
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That seems more than a little out of context but let me suggest the context where this was recorded.
South LA
Hood nation with 54% unemployment and a 100% crackhead. Replay the clip with that in mind. Does it still make sense to you?
South LA
Hood nation with 54% unemployment and a 100% crackhead. Replay the clip with that in mind. Does it still make sense to you?
09-25-2008, 09:06 PM
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Equal spurs. That's cool.
09-25-2008, 09:14 PM
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nuhawk;
I'm not sure which of the clips you're talking about. The McCain clip was him talking to a bunch of white union guys, I believe in Wisconsin.
The "Obama Mack Daddy" clip was recorded at Rev. Manning's church in Harlem.
09-26-2008, 04:43 AM
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I checked. McCain was indeed speaking to white union iron workers, pipe fitters and other building trade guys but it was in Washington D.C., not Wisconsin. It was in April, 2006 when McCain was pushing the McCain/Kennedy amnesty legislation.
09-26-2008, 05:16 AM
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Jim TT , The book i mentioned is a German Solders view and account of WWII, I read it three times over the last 10 years, very good book. I have other titles, if you're a WWII buff at all...... most of mine focus on the "ost front" campaign from "deutsche soldaten" perspective.
Amazing, my post didnt get all pissy with must guys and this has remained somewhat civil.....
If Barack Obama had a name.... oh.....like Will Smith..... LOL, things might been easier for him...... but then MSNBC and others might not be so much in the tank for him.
It disgusts me how much the media is warped and in the tank for Obama. If the main stream media, and all the Hollywood lefties want Obama..... thats bad sign for me...
Obama.... Osama
Saddam Huessien..... Barack Huessien
Amazing, my post didnt get all pissy with must guys and this has remained somewhat civil.....
If Barack Obama had a name.... oh.....like Will Smith..... LOL, things might been easier for him...... but then MSNBC and others might not be so much in the tank for him.
It disgusts me how much the media is warped and in the tank for Obama. If the main stream media, and all the Hollywood lefties want Obama..... thats bad sign for me...
Obama.... Osama
Saddam Huessien..... Barack Huessien
09-26-2008, 06:40 AM
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Nu Hawk ? not sure what you mean but it dosen't seem mean spirted.
74 - I ordered the book already, thanks again...I am
Interested in WWII; my Dad flew a B26 and believe it or not my Dad’s father was a pilot in WWI.
74 - I ordered the book already, thanks again...I am
Interested in WWII; my Dad flew a B26 and believe it or not my Dad’s father was a pilot in WWI.
09-26-2008, 01:09 PM
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http://www.jimdemint.com/blog/2008/0...is-watch-this/
Jim DeMint - Blog Archive - What Caused The Economic Crisis? Watch This!
Jim DeMint - Blog Archive - What Caused The Economic Crisis? Watch This!
09-26-2008, 01:24 PM
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Good video it makes great points about a flood of new buyers driving up housing costs and bank greed involved in whippin out the sub prime loans. But it fails to show the connection between McCain and the Fannie and Freddy. He's full up with folks from those outfits in his campain right now. It increasingly seems like we can only trust military folks like Powell or Clark. McCain aint in the same league as those two. as he is undereducated campared to either of them.
09-26-2008, 02:29 PM
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Unless these debates change my mind, I'm going to vote 3rd party this year for someone with more integrity.
I know it's a "wasted" vote, but it's a protest vote, and I'm guessing there will be many more of them. Popular 3rd party candidates usually only succeed in stealing voters from one candidate (and throwing the election), but I think this time both will be losing many votes.
I think the Dems are idiots for pushing Obama so hard, Hillary would be miles ahead of McCain right now. I'm guessing she'll be campaigning in 2012 and her slogan will be "I told you so."
I know it's a "wasted" vote, but it's a protest vote, and I'm guessing there will be many more of them. Popular 3rd party candidates usually only succeed in stealing voters from one candidate (and throwing the election), but I think this time both will be losing many votes.
I think the Dems are idiots for pushing Obama so hard, Hillary would be miles ahead of McCain right now. I'm guessing she'll be campaigning in 2012 and her slogan will be "I told you so."
09-26-2008, 02:30 PM
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Pres debate on tonight at 5pm PST, 8pm EST btw.
09-26-2008, 02:39 PM
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So McNugget decided it was a good idea to show up and give em the straight talk after all eh?
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09-26-2008, 04:05 PM
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trash talk, lol! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4-TZspqlOs
09-26-2008, 04:50 PM
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09-26-2008, 05:48 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBghD...eature=related
YouTube - Barackroll and Rickroll - Side by Side
YouTube - Barackroll and Rickroll - Side by Side
09-27-2008, 01:02 PM
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Barak Obama..."I've got a bracelet too!"
'nuf said.
'nuf said.
09-27-2008, 01:56 PM
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Since 72 stingray doesn't know what he is talking about, let me set the record straight. There were no terrorists in Iraq after 9/11. Saddam wouldn't tolerate them in his country. We invited them in when we disenfranchised the Iraqis in their own country. Instead they have been training in Pakistan and to a lesser degree, Afghanistan where Obama has said repeatedly that we need to focus on the mission. McCain on the other hand, doesn't even know where these countries are in realtion to each other. And yet, some of you would think him the better choice??? Are you that stupid??? Thats ok..... Obama killed McCain last night according to every poll I have seen. Please vote 3rd party...
09-27-2008, 02:16 PM
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Did you watch the debate? I did, and I didn't see it that way. And who trusts polls taken by the liberal media?
09-27-2008, 02:24 PM
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Here we go again with the liberal media.... What liberal media are you talking about?? Nothing that Murdock has a hand in, not FOX or ABC or any of the other major players in the "media"... You guys quote the "liberal Media" talking point like it is the truth. The media is so slanted towards the right it isn't even funny. Progressives would like nothing more than to have equal footing in the media. When that happens, we will get "fair and balanced" and not before.
09-27-2008, 02:31 PM
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By the way, I see Obama is gaining right here on our own poll...
09-27-2008, 02:53 PM
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Goggle "I've got a bracelet too" and see for yourself who the empty suit is.
Obama sounded like a little kid. And he didn't even know the name on the bracelet!
Obama sounded like a little kid. And he didn't even know the name on the bracelet!
09-27-2008, 03:47 PM
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VTRsurfer I work for Hart Schaffner & Marx and we made the suit Obama was wearing, I think it looked good.
Yes …WWI Pilots are few are far between, my Grandfather cashed twice and was not killed (obviously). My Father was shot down coming back from bombing oil fields in Hungary and ditched in the Mediterranean near Sardinia. The whole crew of six survived, but were not in good shape. My Dad tried to swing to shore to get a boat and could not make it, he was a good swimmer but he was wounded (he later received a PH). He was saved by a British patrol boat, lucky for me.
Yes …WWI Pilots are few are far between, my Grandfather cashed twice and was not killed (obviously). My Father was shot down coming back from bombing oil fields in Hungary and ditched in the Mediterranean near Sardinia. The whole crew of six survived, but were not in good shape. My Dad tried to swing to shore to get a boat and could not make it, he was a good swimmer but he was wounded (he later received a PH). He was saved by a British patrol boat, lucky for me.
09-27-2008, 04:08 PM
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Jim TT,
Wow! Thanks to your Dad and Grandfather we are able to have this discussion today. Glad they both made it. Not enough people realize or appreciate what they sacrificed.
And you're right, the suit did look good.
Wow! Thanks to your Dad and Grandfather we are able to have this discussion today. Glad they both made it. Not enough people realize or appreciate what they sacrificed.
And you're right, the suit did look good.
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