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Old 03-28-2009 | 08:35 PM
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This video sure is making its rounds, that's for sure! It was posted on a local forum of mine as well. Scary **** indeed. There is a "tea party" rally locally to me in the next coming weeks. It will be my first to attend if I decide to go. Tired of seeing ouir country go down the pipe without at least having a say about it. It disgusts me to be honest.
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Tea Parties are being planned all over the country. Talk Radio will have the locations.

I wonder if the Mainstream Media will find a way to ignore them.
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Originally Posted by Cleveland
I'm going frog hunting this weekend.. I gotta see if that's true.
Let us know how that turns out....poor frogs.
Old 03-28-2009 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VTRsurfer
Tea Parties are being planned all over the country. Talk Radio will have the locations.

I wonder if the Mainstream Media will find a way to ignore them.
Well I spoke too soon. Looks like the local city doesn't want people voicing their concerns publicly. So much for our rights http://shelbycoteaparty.wordpress.co...-in-hoover-al/

I think they are going to try and plan one for the states capital in Montgomery soon. We'll see.

Update: apparently other cities are keeping it from happening too. This one in Florida...

http://www.the912project.com/

http://www.winknews.com/news/local/42019772.html

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Interesting but I could do without all the conspiracy theory nonsense and the spooky narration he provides. It really detracts from the credibility.
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Yep. Those conspiracy theories are all just nonsense.
Bilderbergers don't exist and neither does the CFR or Trilateral Commission. They're just the unelected planetary ruling elite, but that doesn't mean anything since it's all nonsense.

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Bilderberg wikipedia (you probably won't find an actual site since its a secret society kind of thing) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_Group http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/

The Trilateral Comm http://www.trilateral.org/

CFR http://www.cfr.org/

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Old 03-29-2009 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by killer5280
Yep. Those conspiracy theories are all just nonsense.
Bilderbergers don't exist and neither does the CFR or Trilateral Commission. They're just the unelected planetary ruling elite, but that doesn't mean anything since it's all nonsense.
I didn't say they don't exist. People like a good story, the truth (or perhaps their own lives) just isn't interesting enough for them. Do you seriously believe him that this alleged world gov't engineered blowing up the WTC via Al Qaeda in order to make everyone paranoid so that they could justify taking your freedoms away? If the most recent bank bailout is any example, the government doesn't need the public's support or justification to do anything.

Those in power don't have enough foresight or organization or work ethic to accomplish any sort of grand master scheme against you. Hell, they can't even do a tax return properly. I don't doubt they try to take advantage of messy situations, but I don't think most politicians see past the end of their own nose. Most of them never even had a real job where they had to answer to the bottom line.
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Aussies are making their War on Terrorist Toads (WoTT!) a fun family day out

Toxic toads targeted in Australia's 'Toad Day Out'
By KRISTEN GELINEAU – 3 days ago
SYDNEY (AP) — For decades, the poisonous cane toad has plagued Australians, breeding rapidly, eating voraciously and bestowing death upon most animals that dare consume it.
So officials came up with a novel — and, some say, poetic — solution: hold a festive mass killing of the creatures and turn the corpses into fertilizer for the very farmers who've battled the pests for years.

Originally Posted by Cleveland
I'm going frog hunting this weekend.. I gotta see if that's true.


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Most important of all? The Second Amendment recognizes and guarantees each American citizen the right to own and carry weapons for all the above reasons as well as protection of self, family, neighbors, town, county etc, as well as the right to own and carry weapons for the pure pleasure of doing so.

1000+ years of English common law guarantee you the same right, but unfortunately your government refuses to recognize it and most of your fellow countrymen would rather bend over and spread their cheeks than demand it.
But does your constitution spell out who's the true patriot when the shooting starts?? There is a disenfranchised minority* who believe they are the true patriots and if push came to shove, wouldn't be averse to a bit of top down redistribution on principle from those they feel had obtained it unpatriotically in the pursuit of the unGodly American free market dream.

*http://www.dexanderson.com/ (believes he is the reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson)

and when in rabid free flow...(NOT CHILD FRIENDLY READING) http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/...ages/2954.html



Maybe we've lasted as long as we have on our green and pleasant isle because we haven't guns to readily kill each other off (the channel does a good job of keeping Johnny foreigner out (bar Thatcher's tomb of a tunnel)) and plus we have warm beer as a tasty opium for the masses, alternatively we pop across to Amsterdam to get away from the chavs.
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Maybe you should look up Steve and Paul Watson and tell them how well your green and pleasant isle is doing.
You have no constitution and you have a sham "democracy" overlaid by a monarchy. It is illegal to videotape in public in many places now, but London is the most surveilled city in the world, with millions of video cameras watching your every move; you have just as many rights and freedoms that the government tells you you have.
No offense Wicky, but the same forces that have been hard at work here in the US (and all over the world) subverting our sovereignty, chipping away at our freedoms, building government power and preparing us for merger into a world government have also been at work in England. Your PM recently addressed our Congress and advised, in effect, for our representatives to disregard the wishes of the people and sign on to the New World Order. I think we fought a war a couple of centuries ago to keep guys like Gordon Brown from meddling in our affairs.

P.S. Are you serious about how the channel keeps Johnny Foreigner out? Last time I was there England looked as much like a third world circus as my city (Atlanta) does now; foreigners were everywhere. Not that I dislike foreigners, per se, but that statement just floored me.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Those in power don't have enough foresight or organization or work ethic to accomplish any sort of grand master scheme against you. Hell, they can't even do a tax return properly. I don't doubt they try to take advantage of messy situations, but I don't think most politicians see past the end of their own nose. Most of them never even had a real job where they had to answer to the bottom line.
The politicians are just the cardboard cutout frontmen for those who operate and control things from behind the scenes. If you think that the decimation of our manufacturing and infrastructure and the concurrent creation of the Homeland Security surveillance state just "happened", or that the banks and corporations behind semi-secret think tanks and meeting groups such as the CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderbergers don't have long term plans for a global currency (to "solve" the problems created by these same institutions, naturally) and a global government run by themselves, then you really should do a little research. All of this has been laid out in their public utterances and policy papers going back nearly 100 years. The pretense of incompetence and ineptitude is belied by the fact that we have been grinding inexorably toward elite run world government for a long, long time, regardless of which "party" is in control of Congress or the White House.

"The powers of financial capitalism had a far-reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole...
Their secret is that they have annexed from governments, monarchies, and republics the power to create the world's money..." .- Prof. Carroll Quigley,
renowned, late Georgetown macro-historian (mentioned by former President Clinton in
his first nomination acceptance speech), author of

Tragedy & Hope: A History of the World in Our Time



"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
--Woodrow Wilson, from his book The New Freedom (1913)


"The Federal Reserve Banks are one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever seen. There is not a man within the sound of my voice who does not know that this Nation is run by the International Bankers."
--Congressman Louis T. McFadden (Rep. Pa)
“I ended 1987 with my third speech of the decade at the Florida Democratic convention…
I told the Florida Democrats, “We have to do nothing less than create a new world economic order and secure the place of the American people within it.” The central arguments I made were “We’ve got to pay the price today to secure tomorrow” and “We’re all in it together.”
In retrospect, my speeches in the late eighties seem interesting to me because of their similarity to what I would say in 1992 and what I tried to do as President.”
Bill Clinton in his book My Life


"In this unhappy state of affairs, few people retain much confidence in the more ambitious strategies for world order that had wide backing a generation ago—'world federalism,' 'charter 'review,' and 'world peace through world law.'... If instant world government, Charter review, and a greatly strengthened International Court do not provide the answers, what hope for progress is there?... In short, the 'house of world order' would have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down. It will look like a great 'booming, buzzing confusion,' to use William James' famous description of reality, but an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece, will accomplish much more than the old-fashioned frontal assault.”

- Trilateral Commission member Richard Gardner, The Hard Road to World Order, (Foreign Affairs, 1974) p. 557-558
Old 03-29-2009 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Wicky
Maybe we've lasted as long as we have on our green and pleasant isle because we haven't guns to readily kill each other off

Oh I don't know. Prior to your Firearms Act of 1920 Englishmen were free to own any firearms they wished. Ordinary Englishmen were free to load a pistol, place it in their pocket and stroll about London without violating any law.

Seems to me the U.K. got through the 19th century OK. Actually had the lowest homicide and violent crime rates in the industrialized world. Both are orders of magnitude higher now than they were then.
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Originally Posted by Wicky
But does your constitution spell out who's the true patriot when the shooting starts??
Individuals have to make up their own minds.

Arguments over who is the patriot will arise from time to time. One began at Concord's north bridge in 1775 and wasn't settled until 1781 at Yorktown.
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Just to clarify the extent of your beliefs, do you believe NWO is being founded by a) Reptoids b) Illuminati c) Zionists d) Gordon Brown e) all of em'

"millions of video cameras"

Fooled by incoming motorcycles and mirrored visors :-)

"It is illegal to videotape in public in many places now"

Have you a link confirming where I can't take videos here in the UK - ta

"Are you serious about how the channel keeps Johnny Foreigner out?"

The Chunnel works a tad better than your Mexican border as it funnels illegal immigrants into the clutches of our secret police who recruit them to play for England's cricket and football teams for the entertainment for the White Royal* elites.

"England looked as much like a third world circus"

It must have been on your visit jaw droppingly amazing to find people who don't look native can be British - Is it the same in America? ;-)

I'll leave you to contemplate the irony in the linked Nationalistic Campaign Poster

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/03...lish_spitfire/

* admit it you tried to take a peak to see her Reptidoidness at the the Palace didn't ya?? Works every time in attracting tourists over :-)
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One thing is for sure...I don't need a Youtube video to tell me that My government is run by organized crime. It's glaringly obvious.
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Originally Posted by jbaxx
One thing is for sure...I don't need a Youtube video to tell me that My government is run by organized crime. It's glaringly obvious.
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Old 03-29-2009 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by jbaxx
One thing is for sure...I don't need a Youtube video to tell me that My government is run by organized crime. It's glaringly obvious.

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Originally Posted by killer5280
The politicians are just the cardboard cutout frontmen for those who operate and control things from behind the scenes. If you think that the decimation of our manufacturing and infrastructure and the concurrent creation of the Homeland Security surveillance state just "happened", or that the banks and corporations behind semi-secret think tanks...
Ok, so then do you believe 911 was a conspiracy?
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Originally Posted by Wicky
It must have been on your visit jaw droppingly amazing to find people who don't look native can be British - Is it the same in America? ;-)
Yup, but just to be safe we assume anyone with dark skin or an accent is out to steal our jobs and rape our women and send all the loot back to an overpopulated 3rd world country somewhere.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Yup, but just to be safe we assume anyone with dark skin or an accent is out to steal our jobs and rape our women and send all the loot back to an overpopulated 3rd world country somewhere.
How in the world could anyone think such things?



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Originally Posted by RK1
How in the world could anyone think such things?
Either ignorance or prejudice.

Even if EVERY criminal was a minority, that doesn't mean all minorities are criminals.
Old 03-29-2009 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Either ignorance or prejudice.

Even if EVERY criminal was a minority, that doesn't mean all minorities are criminals.
That's both completely true and utterly beside the point. Would you send your kid to a summer camp after being assured that "not all" the camp counselors were child molesters?

And it isn't about the leftist "minorities" straw man either. The world is full of "minorities" who are educated, law abiding, have money in the bank, job skills, speak English etc. They'd love to come here for the express purpose of contributing and actually becoming full fledged, fully assimilated Americans. They pay thousands of dollars for background checks, medical exams, proof of income etc. They wait years and years and years for a chance, if it ever comes, to immigrate.

De facto U.S. immigration policy doesn't favor them, makes suckers out of them.

The actual policy rejects those who have something to offer America and her people and favors the poor, uneducated, unskilled, those with no respect for our law or culture. It's based on what they need and what can be extorted on their behalf from the American taxpayer.

Like Mexico's immigration policy, like every other nation's policy, our immigration policy should be based on what's good for us, not what's good for others at our expense.
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Originally Posted by Randman
I think that some of the sheep that drank the obama-aide flavored drink are beginning to question there choice of leadership...too little, too late dumb asses...

And unfortunately, they don't comprehend bungy jumping! When you dive off the cord is supposed to catch you - - Tim - - we're talking banks here Tim - hello? The press/pres (your boss) is talking autos.

Go back to your office. Take the phone off the hook. Get a big cushy blanket and sleep under your desk for the next three years. Maybe it will all work itself out.
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Originally Posted by Randman
I think that some of the sheep that drank the obama-aide flavored drink are beginning to question there choice of leadership...too little, too late dumb asses...

Wait I didn't get that at all from the video. Who are these Obama sheep that are questioning the choice they made? KRS1 doesn't seem to sound like a sheep for Obama in that video. Maybe I watched a different one?

The video seems to be comming from the same sub culture that has always been bashing the hegemony of the world banks, the WTO and the IMF; No matter who is in power! The same people who made this vid, have made vids about bush as well. To me it seems to be commming from the view point of the type that showed up in Seattle when the WTO met there a 10 years ago. The type that votes for Ron Paul, Ralph Nader, Dennis Kucinich, Bob Barr, or even a less partisan McCain.... not Obama. They are more like coyotes and ravens than sheep. The types who have been trying to shove this same message in the face of America for a loooooong time. A look beneath the covers of our "free" market capitalism is pretty disturbing. Take a look at what the IMF did to Jamacia some time.

It seems too many people in this country can only see in Black or White, Conservative or Liberal, Republican or Democrat, Muslim or Jew, Christian or Athiest. Absolutes are just stupid way to gloss over the the details and force everyone into extreme postions. It just ain't that easy or convienint. It's more complex than rooting for "the home team" in game on TV.
Why does every political/government/social thead get polarized on this forum?

I am extremely tired of both whinny complaining Liberals, and obnoxious grandstanding Conservatives.</rant>

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How in the world could anyone think such things?



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this kinda stuff pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by j shizzy wizzy
my favorite post of the year! lol.
Well I'm glad someone appreciates my sense of humor, ignorance, xenophobia etc.!

To others;

Pardon me for wanting America to remain the first world beacon of light and liberty that is has been.

Pardon me for objecting to your brain washed, self loathing, cultural Marxist, multi cultural, diversity, third world socialist banana republic vision.

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Stock up on food and ammo for a rainy day, just a couple months supply will do. The problem with the mindset of most Americans is that no thinks its possible for our country to fall like others in the past.

"Oh, that could NEVER happen here!" statements like this spell trouble...
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What's all the complaining about?

We have the best government money can buy.
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Originally Posted by CentralCoaster
Ok, so then do you believe 911 was a conspiracy?
Either way, it was a conspiracy. The official story is that Osama and the boys conspired to get on those planes and crash them into the WTC and Pentagon. That's the conspiracy that isn't supported by the evidence.



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