Who wants CCT's

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 04:25 PM

So im thinking about making a run of manual CCT's.

Here is a picture of mine Ive made for my bike.

Price is 70$ plus shipping.

This price includes the 2 stainless steel bolts, 4 nuts, one welded to the end of each bolt, and 2 gaskets.

Who is interested?

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 04:26 PM

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 04:28 PM

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 04:29 PM

FL02SupaHawk996 · 02-10-2009, 05:30 PM

Dang it, I know I souldda waited before ordering new gaskets

Good luck bro they look better than the ones I have and I paid over $100!
RC

Slim · 02-10-2009, 05:50 PM

You'd be doing everyone a big favor by counter-boring the attaching bolt holes. Trust me - been there, done that.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 06:02 PM

ok. whats your reasoning behind that though?

Slim · 02-10-2009, 06:13 PM

It's easier to set the lock nut. With the bolt heads sticking out like you have in those pics it's not as easy to get an open end wrench on that lock nut. With the heads recessed, below the outer face of the block, you can do so easily.

Also keep in mind that most people won't have the engine out of their bike, so this feature would really help since there's a bike in the way of making life easy. It's one thing to angle a wrench when you have all the room in the world - when there's a bike in the way you usually just curse and swear.

I speak from experience. I built a pair for myself (i'm a machinist) and learned the hard way. Just trying to help you make a better product, not only for yourself, but for your customers.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 06:26 PM

Now it makes perfect sense.

Alright, Ill do that from now on. I have to get a special bit.

Im making mine with a band saw, lathe and drill press.

Slim · 02-10-2009, 06:33 PM

That's the best way to do it, man. The KISS principle is worth it's weight in gold.

Knowing this i'd strongly recommend using a counterboring bit, what's meant for the job. Please avoid doing a hack job and grinding the tip of a larger diameter drill flat. This can easily result in injury and/or scrap parts. I would also not recommend using an endmill for like reasons.

Before you go too nuts, though, double check how far you can screw those mounting bolts into the heads. If the bolts won't screw into the heads much farther then you might have to use a thicker place to start with before you can do this (counterbore).

Moto Man · 02-10-2009, 06:35 PM

I'd take a pair. Rather have them plain metal though or possibly yellow.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slim

That's the best way to do it, man. The KISS principle is worth it's weight in gold.

Knowing this i'd strongly recommend using a counterboring bit, what's meant for the job. Please avoid doing a hack job and grinding the tip of a larger diameter drill flat. This can easily result in injury and/or scrap parts. I would also not recommend using an endmill for like reasons.

Before you go too nuts, though, double check how far you can screw those mounting bolts into the heads. If the bolts won't screw into the heads much farther then you might have to use a thicker place to start with before you can do this (counterbore).

Yes the bolts have about 1/4 inch shank. Im using 3/4 inch aluminum, but in turning them down on the lathe so there is a part that actually fits snugly in the head.

Even if I cant recess the head of the allen bolt completely, every little bit helps.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Moto Man

I'd take a pair. Rather have them plain metal though or possibly yellow.

raw aluminum is fine with me. You can paint them yourself if you prefer.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 06:54 PM

If enough people want them I might get some yellow and black ceramic paint along with the red and offer different colors.

captainchaos · 02-10-2009, 08:55 PM

That's badass bro, you do some really nice work

pzurek18 · 02-10-2009, 10:09 PM

i would take a pair, in either black or red.
So these are the same things as the APE ccts besides their just homemade?

sorry about the dumb question

lazn · 02-10-2009, 10:22 PM

Something else that might also improve the product.. Later APE's included a o-ring below the loose nut to prevent oil weeping out through the threads. It just get squished, nothing fancy.. but keeps the engine clean.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 10:23 PM

you are correct.

Im down on my luck lately and need to pay some medical bills so I figure why not.

They function 100% like the ape's do.

Truckinduc · 02-10-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazn

Something else that might also improve the product.. Later APE's included a o-ring below the loose nut to prevent oil weeping out through the threads. It just get squished, nothing fancy.. but keeps the engine clean.

I can do that too, good suggestion.

pzurek18 · 02-10-2009, 10:35 PM

Well ya then if you said they work exactly and its 70$ shipped, i will definitley be interested in getting a pair for myself.

Thanks,
Pawel

LineArrayNut · 02-11-2009, 12:22 AM

count me in for the blue ones, lol! seriously, take paypal?

nothing · 02-11-2009, 05:14 AM

i may be in, how do these actually work?

Tweety · 02-11-2009, 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nothing

i may be in, how do these actually work?

You set the tension by threading the bolt in/out, and then lock it in place with the inner nut... The outer nut is just to make it easier turning the nut...

nothing · 02-11-2009, 06:08 AM

hmm, how do i know how much tension to put on the cam chain? my luck i'd tighten it too much and first start up things would go snap

Tweety · 02-11-2009, 06:19 AM

You start of by getting it fingertight (no tools) and start up the bike to idle... DO NOT REV!... then fiddle until it's as quiet as possible...

Then lock the nut and go for a warm-up ride... Once fully warmed up, you do the same routine...

The end result is that you get it right at operating temps, it will make a little noise when the bike is warming up...

I thing the consensus was that it was fully fingertight, then back of one turn... I wasn't that scientific... I did it by ear and feel...

Stevebis1 · 02-11-2009, 07:39 AM

Count me in for a set too. Do you need a certain number before you make them?

Syclone · 02-11-2009, 08:40 AM

I'm in for a set

Stevebis1 · 02-11-2009, 09:27 AM

Just took a closer look at the APE. Does anyone think there may be a hardness spec for the tensioner bolt? I'm just thinking what this might look like after 10k or 20k miles for the cam chain rubbing on it. Is a stainless bolt already that hard so there is no worry?

inderocker · 02-11-2009, 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevebis1

Just took a closer look at the APE. Does anyone think there may be a hardness spec for the tensioner bolt? I'm just thinking what this might look like after 10k or 20k miles for the cam chain rubbing on it. Is a stainless bolt already that hard so there is no worry?

The chain is running on a guide and will never touch the bolt.

Truckinduc · 02-11-2009, 09:56 AM

The head of the stainless bolt comes in contact with a steel insert in the cam chain guide. Nothing that touches the bolt really moves.

Ill take a pic of what I mean.

I would like to have people interested in 10 sets before I start to make them.

02-10-2009, 04:25 PM	#1
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	Who wants CCT's So im thinking about making a run of manual CCT's. Here is a picture of mine Ive made for my bike. Price is 70$ plus shipping. This price includes the 2 stainless steel bolts, 4 nuts, one welded to the end of each bolt, and 2 gaskets. Who is interested? __________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me Last edited by Truckinduc; 03-08-2009 at 07:29 PM.

02-10-2009, 04:26 PM	#2
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	__________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 04:28 PM	#3
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	__________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 04:29 PM	#4
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	__________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 05:30 PM	#5
FL02SupaHawk996 Fastest Color SuperBike Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lithia, FL Posts: 1,399	Dang it, I know I souldda waited before ordering new gaskets Good luck bro they look better than the ones I have and I paid over $100! RC __________________ Penske Double Clicker, 900rr Braced Swing Arm, Erion full 2-1-2 stainless exhaust w/re-jet, 520 16/43, smoke double bubble, RC51 SP-2 front end, braided stainless brake lines, Radial Clutch & Brake MCs, Superbike bars & raisers, rear fender elim. w/intergrated LED tail light/signals, corbin seat, T-Rex sliders, R1 mirrors, speedo healer, APE manual CCTs, PAIRless, 900rr rear wheel

02-10-2009, 05:50 PM	#6
Slim Senior Member Back Marker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 203	You'd be doing everyone a big favor by counter-boring the attaching bolt holes. Trust me - been there, done that. __________________ Andrew 2000 VTR1000F Firestorm - SOLD! with - 929 fork/brakes/wheel, SS front brake lines, Heli-bars, custom CCTs, removed PAIR, bafflectomy, 520 conversion (DID ERV3 chain, SuperSprox 16/41 sprockets), Bridgestone BT-016s, Garmin Zumo 550 next - custom seat and re-valved suspension ..... and more fuel

02-10-2009, 06:02 PM	#7
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	ok. whats your reasoning behind that though? __________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 06:13 PM	#8
Slim Senior Member Back Marker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 203	It's easier to set the lock nut. With the bolt heads sticking out like you have in those pics it's not as easy to get an open end wrench on that lock nut. With the heads recessed, below the outer face of the block, you can do so easily. Also keep in mind that most people won't have the engine out of their bike, so this feature would really help since there's a bike in the way of making life easy. It's one thing to angle a wrench when you have all the room in the world - when there's a bike in the way you usually just curse and swear. I speak from experience. I built a pair for myself (i'm a machinist) and learned the hard way. Just trying to help you make a better product, not only for yourself, but for your customers. __________________ Andrew 2000 VTR1000F Firestorm - SOLD! with - 929 fork/brakes/wheel, SS front brake lines, Heli-bars, custom CCTs, removed PAIR, bafflectomy, 520 conversion (DID ERV3 chain, SuperSprox 16/41 sprockets), Bridgestone BT-016s, Garmin Zumo 550 next - custom seat and re-valved suspension ..... and more fuel

02-10-2009, 06:26 PM	#9
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	Now it makes perfect sense. Alright, Ill do that from now on. I have to get a special bit. Im making mine with a band saw, lathe and drill press. __________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 06:33 PM	#10
Slim Senior Member Back Marker Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 203	That's the best way to do it, man. The KISS principle is worth it's weight in gold. Knowing this i'd strongly recommend using a counterboring bit, what's meant for the job. Please avoid doing a hack job and grinding the tip of a larger diameter drill flat. This can easily result in injury and/or scrap parts. I would also not recommend using an endmill for like reasons. Before you go too nuts, though, double check how far you can screw those mounting bolts into the heads. If the bolts won't screw into the heads much farther then you might have to use a thicker place to start with before you can do this (counterbore). __________________ Andrew 2000 VTR1000F Firestorm - SOLD! with - 929 fork/brakes/wheel, SS front brake lines, Heli-bars, custom CCTs, removed PAIR, bafflectomy, 520 conversion (DID ERV3 chain, SuperSprox 16/41 sprockets), Bridgestone BT-016s, Garmin Zumo 550 next - custom seat and re-valved suspension ..... and more fuel

02-10-2009, 06:35 PM	#11
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02-10-2009, 06:54 PM	#14
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	If enough people want them I might get some yellow and black ceramic paint along with the red and offer different colors. __________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 08:55 PM	#15
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02-10-2009, 10:09 PM	#16
pzurek18 Member Squid Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 80	i would take a pair, in either black or red. So these are the same things as the APE ccts besides their just homemade? sorry about the dumb question

02-10-2009, 10:22 PM	#17
lazn Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,862	Something else that might also improve the product.. Later APE's included a o-ring below the loose nut to prevent oil weeping out through the threads. It just get squished, nothing fancy.. but keeps the engine clean. __________________ Yellow 00 with: 2003 CBR954rr forks, triples & rotors, CBR1000RR Front Wheel - GPR Stabilizer - EBC HH pads - F4i calipers+mc - ST1100 Clutch MC - SWATT clip ons - R/R replaced - Sargent Seat - MIG CF Highmount exhaust - APE CCT's - ZG tinted touring windscreen - Integrated Smoked LED tail light - mini LED blinkers on passenger pegs - LP Flush Mount III front signals - T-Rex Sliders - Michelin PP2CTs - FZ1 Mirrors - headlight relays added

02-10-2009, 10:23 PM	#18
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	you are correct. Im down on my luck lately and need to pay some medical bills so I figure why not. They function 100% like the ape's do. __________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

02-10-2009, 10:35 PM	#20
pzurek18 Member Squid Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 80	Well ya then if you said they work exactly and its 70$ shipped, i will definitley be interested in getting a pair for myself. Thanks, Pawel

02-11-2009, 12:22 AM	#21
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02-11-2009, 05:14 AM	#22
nothing ride it out Superstock Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NH Posts: 254	i may be in, how do these actually work? __________________ 98 Superhawk- Flat Pearl White and naked 78 CB750ss- Macgyver Black and slammed

02-11-2009, 06:08 AM	#24
nothing ride it out Superstock Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NH Posts: 254	hmm, how do i know how much tension to put on the cam chain? my luck i'd tighten it too much and first start up things would go snap __________________ 98 Superhawk- Flat Pearl White and naked 78 CB750ss- Macgyver Black and slammed

02-11-2009, 06:19 AM	#25
Tweety Out of my mind, back in 5 SuperBike Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malmoe, Sweden Posts: 2,302	You start of by getting it fingertight (no tools) and start up the bike to idle... DO NOT REV!... then fiddle until it's as quiet as possible... Then lock the nut and go for a warm-up ride... Once fully warmed up, you do the same routine... The end result is that you get it right at operating temps, it will make a little noise when the bike is warming up... I thing the consensus was that it was fully fingertight, then back of one turn... I wasn't that scientific... I did it by ear and feel... __________________ I'm harsh to newbies! Deal with it or I'm harsh to you as well... <--- The result of OCMD... I gave up listing the mods in the sig... Last edited by Tweety; 02-11-2009 at 06:29 AM.

02-11-2009, 07:39 AM	#26
Stevebis1 Senior Member Superstock Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delmar NY Posts: 363	Count me in for a set too. Do you need a certain number before you make them? __________________ 99 Yellow Superhawk, VFR Clipons, Nemish worked forks, Micron CF slipons, Dynojet, PAIR removed, OEM Filter, Sargent seat, Airblade DB screen, flush turn signals, mototech undertail, Integrated signal LED tail light, 2nd gen finned R/R, HH pads & 43t rear sprocket Soon to install - Truck's CCT 82 Honda CX500 Turbo 01 Yamaha LS2000 92 Yamaha VXR (2) 05 Acura TSX

02-11-2009, 08:40 AM	#27
Syclone Boosted Superstock Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 444	I'm in for a set __________________ Mike '98 Superhawk \| K&N \| LP Turn 6 Signals \| 9xxRR forks/triples/wheel \| Swatt clip-ons \| F4i calipers \| V&H S4 Ti cans \| DJ kit \| Truck CCTs '03 VTX1300S \| HK 3" Big Straights '04 EX500 (wife's) (Sold)

02-11-2009, 09:27 AM	#28
Stevebis1 Senior Member Superstock Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delmar NY Posts: 363	Just took a closer look at the APE. Does anyone think there may be a hardness spec for the tensioner bolt? I'm just thinking what this might look like after 10k or 20k miles for the cam chain rubbing on it. Is a stainless bolt already that hard so there is no worry? __________________ 99 Yellow Superhawk, VFR Clipons, Nemish worked forks, Micron CF slipons, Dynojet, PAIR removed, OEM Filter, Sargent seat, Airblade DB screen, flush turn signals, mototech undertail, Integrated signal LED tail light, 2nd gen finned R/R, HH pads & 43t rear sprocket Soon to install - Truck's CCT 82 Honda CX500 Turbo 01 Yamaha LS2000 92 Yamaha VXR (2) 05 Acura TSX

02-11-2009, 09:56 AM	#30
Truckinduc Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 1,021	The head of the stainless bolt comes in contact with a steel insert in the cam chain guide. Nothing that touches the bolt really moves. Ill take a pic of what I mean. I would like to have people interested in 10 sets before I start to make them. __________________ "I can't understand why he just cant leave good enough alone". TMBmotorsport manual CCT's here http://www.superhawkforum.com/forums...ad.php?t=17585 TMBmotorsport Fork Brace here http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=213932#post213932 My Build http://superhawkforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16652 For custom built parts PM me

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