RC51 Front End Swap

FL02SupaHawk996 · 05-20-2008, 11:19 AM

Model year installed on 2002 VTR1000f

Fork legs SP-2 RC51
Lower triple clamp CBR954rr
Upper triple clamp CBR954rr
Superbike drag bar & risers (Thanks to Superbling's inspiration)
Steering stem bearings CBR954rr
Brake calipers SP-2 RC51
Brake rotors SP-1 RC51
Braided steel brake lines
Brake master cylinder stock for now
Front wheel SP-2 RC51 5 spokes
Front fender CBR954rr - red matches close enough

Installers Narrative
Steering stops from the CBR954rr lower triple have to be trimmed and if done right you can get steering locked.

Drilled the top triple to add Superbike bars on a drill press and came out nice...

The gull winged top top triple allow clipons above the triple, but I went with Superbars for now and have 2 lines showing on fork tubes above the triple and MCs both fit but tight.

Radiators needed to be repositioned to allow space for beefyer forks...installed 7mm spacers on front brackets to push rads out from frame and turned top conecting rad hose till it gave room for lower triple. You will get some hose pinch, but nothing that would cause problems even at steering lock...

I repositioned the horn on the steering stem and used the 954 horn cuz it's louder and sounds like a VW bus

1st impressions:
WOW

This is not the same bike! It wants to go fast all the time and the bumpy curves on my regular commute don't have bumps anymore

There's so much more braking power I'll use 1 finger from now on and the forks have more adjustment (compression, Rebound, pre-load) then I'll ever need

killer5280 · 05-20-2008, 11:25 AM

This confirms my belief that there is enough room on the top of the gull wing triple to mount the TAG handlebar clamps, which really simplifies the bar mounting problem using that top triple. It won't satisfy the fussy guys who insist on using clip-ons, however. I'm not too sure about the drag bars, though. Is there any bend at all to that bar?
Now I see you have added another picture and there is a slight bend to the bar. I cut my superbike bend bar to the width of the stock clip-ons.

FL02SupaHawk996 · 05-20-2008, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer5280

This confirms my belief that there is enough room on the top of the gull wing triple to mount the TAG handlebar clamps, which really simplifies the bar mounting problem using that top triple. I'm not too sure about the drag bars, though. Is there any bend at all to that bar?

Yes, it has a slight bend, bot not much...I just drilled the two circles out that are already on the back of the triple

zerocool · 08-15-2008, 01:28 AM

i want to drill my 954 triple and do the motocross bar thing. i see a problem if i did it your way though. how can a scotts damper fit into that picture?

zerocool · 08-15-2008, 01:37 AM

also you said the gull wings allow for clip ons above the triple. thats if i slide my forks up right? don't they clamp onto the fork? so wouldn't the forks need to come up a bit in the clamps (and steepen the angle)?

FL02SupaHawk996 · 08-15-2008, 06:24 AM

Zerocool, easy there big guy

1st off you should consider why you currently have a steering damper and why you may not need it with superbike bars...

2nd depending on which fork tubes you are using and how you setup your rear shock there should be lots of extra fork tube to run up above the 954rr gull wing top triple...

The RC51 tubes are plenty long enough to run 954rr clip-on Heli bars above the triple cuz I've done it

Good luck bro!
RC

zerocool · 08-15-2008, 08:40 PM

please elaborate on why i wont need the damper anymore.

FL02SupaHawk996 · 08-15-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerocool

please elaborate on why i wont need the damper anymore.

You ever had head shake while pushing a wheelbarrow?

LOL

With the leverage of superbike bars you'll control head shake like you bought and paid for it

RC

zerocool · 08-15-2008, 09:52 PM

i dont quite get the wheelbarrow analogy. they dont go fast enough to be an example of headshake. but i understand the leverage and angle of attack will be different. i have however experienced headshake on mx bikes. just checkin out my options and learning what i want to know. now that you mention it I hardly see any fighters with a stabilizer.

Tweety · 08-16-2008, 04:26 AM

The wider the bars, the less likely to get headshake... and if you do it's a lot easier to control it... all because of leverage...

zerocool · 08-16-2008, 11:48 AM

hmm. does anybody use the old base for their steering damper as mounting for dirty clamps? probably not. just asking

Sablotny · 09-24-2008, 10:17 PM

Geez, if I could do this swap I would.

FL02SupaHawk996 · 09-25-2008, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sablotny

Geez, if I could do this swap I would.

Just do it

It's totally worth it and your bike will handle at a whole new level! However, if I were doing it again I'd use 954rr parts cuz they are more plentiful and thus cheaper

Good luck bro,
RC

DimSTriple · 09-25-2008, 07:09 AM

Nice work... and nice bike

FL02SupaHawk996 · 09-25-2008, 07:14 AM

Thanks, one of these days I'll get around to updating my pics...RC

mikstr · 09-25-2008, 07:46 AM

Nice job

Those forks and calipers look especially sweet, he he

Kelevra · 07-24-2009, 03:24 AM

Vellly nice...

FL02SupaHawk996 · 07-24-2009, 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelevra

Vellly nice...

Somebody pass me a beer to wash down this dust

Kelevra, are you doing a swap?
RC

05-20-2008, 11:25 AM	#2
killer5280 Senior Member SuperBike Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 1,158	This confirms my belief that there is enough room on the top of the gull wing triple to mount the TAG handlebar clamps, which really simplifies the bar mounting problem using that top triple. It won't satisfy the fussy guys who insist on using clip-ons, however. I'm not too sure about the drag bars, though. Is there any bend at all to that bar? Now I see you have added another picture and there is a slight bend to the bar. I cut my superbike bend bar to the width of the stock clip-ons. Last edited by killer5280; 05-20-2008 at 11:29 AM.

08-15-2008, 06:24 AM	#6
FL02SupaHawk996 Fastest Color SuperBike Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lithia, FL Posts: 1,399	Zerocool, easy there big guy 1st off you should consider why you currently have a steering damper and why you may not need it with superbike bars... 2nd depending on which fork tubes you are using and how you setup your rear shock there should be lots of extra fork tube to run up above the 954rr gull wing top triple... The RC51 tubes are plenty long enough to run 954rr clip-on Heli bars above the triple cuz I've done it Good luck bro! RC __________________ Penske Double Clicker, 900rr Braced Swing Arm, Erion full 2-1-2 stainless exhaust w/re-jet, 520 16/43, smoke double bubble, RC51 SP-2 front end, braided stainless brake lines, Radial Clutch & Brake MCs, Superbike bars & raisers, rear fender elim. w/intergrated LED tail light/signals, corbin seat, T-Rex sliders, R1 mirrors, speedo healer, APE manual CCTs, PAIRless, 900rr rear wheel Last edited by FL02SupaHawk996; 08-15-2008 at 06:25 AM. Reason: corrections

08-16-2008, 04:26 AM	#10
Tweety Out of my mind, back in 5 SuperBike Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Malmoe, Sweden Posts: 2,302	The wider the bars, the less likely to get headshake... and if you do it's a lot easier to control it... all because of leverage... __________________ I'm harsh to newbies! Deal with it or I'm harsh to you as well... <--- The result of OCMD... I gave up listing the mods in the sig...

09-24-2008, 10:17 PM	#12
Sablotny ReNoob Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sonoma County California Posts: 94	Geez, if I could do this swap I would. __________________ 1999 Pearl Yellow Vance & Hines S4 Titanium exhaust * RaceTech New Gen Compression & Rebound Fork valves & 0.90 springs * Wilbers 641 shock * Corbin saddle * Heli bars * Pazzo shorty levers * T-Rex frame sliders * ZG DB smoke * Dunlop 220's * Back-Off tailight modulator * General Dynamics headlight modulator

09-25-2008, 07:09 AM	#14
DimSTriple Junior Member Squid Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, Greece Posts: 14	Nice work... and nice bike __________________ '99 Satin Black, custom race belly pan, small indicators in front, Led back, Carbon front fender, ABS back fender, APE CCT's, Factory Pro carb kit, Pipercross air fiter, Custom ram-air mode, Removed pair, R1 regulator /Rectifier, 520 chain, Aluminium sprocket, Remus tanium slipons, Ohlins shock, Ohlins FG311 usd forks-954 tripleT-954 Helis-Tokico Radial calipers, 320mm Galfer brake disks, AP Racing CP4125 Master cylinder, Goodridge hoses.

08-15-2008, 01:28 AM	#4
zerocool Junior Member Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	i want to drill my 954 triple and do the motocross bar thing. i see a problem if i did it your way though. how can a scotts damper fit into that picture?

08-15-2008, 01:37 AM	#5
zerocool Junior Member Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	also you said the gull wings allow for clip ons above the triple. thats if i slide my forks up right? don't they clamp onto the fork? so wouldn't the forks need to come up a bit in the clamps (and steepen the angle)?

08-15-2008, 08:40 PM	#7
zerocool Junior Member Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	please elaborate on why i wont need the damper anymore.

08-15-2008, 09:52 PM	#9
zerocool Junior Member Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	i dont quite get the wheelbarrow analogy. they dont go fast enough to be an example of headshake. but i understand the leverage and angle of attack will be different. i have however experienced headshake on mx bikes. just checkin out my options and learning what i want to know. now that you mention it I hardly see any fighters with a stabilizer.

08-16-2008, 11:48 AM	#11
zerocool Junior Member Squid Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 10	hmm. does anybody use the old base for their steering damper as mounting for dirty clamps? probably not. just asking

09-25-2008, 07:14 AM	#15
FL02SupaHawk996 Fastest Color SuperBike Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lithia, FL Posts: 1,399	Thanks, one of these days I'll get around to updating my pics...RC __________________ Penske Double Clicker, 900rr Braced Swing Arm, Erion full 2-1-2 stainless exhaust w/re-jet, 520 16/43, smoke double bubble, RC51 SP-2 front end, braided stainless brake lines, Radial Clutch & Brake MCs, Superbike bars & raisers, rear fender elim. w/intergrated LED tail light/signals, corbin seat, T-Rex sliders, R1 mirrors, speedo healer, APE manual CCTs, PAIRless, 900rr rear wheel

09-25-2008, 07:46 AM	#16
mikstr Senior Member MotoGP Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 2,633	Nice job Those forks and calipers look especially sweet, he he __________________ Ported & milled heads, Yosh cams, lwt flywheel, Akra exh, O/S oil cooler, modded airbox, DJ kit, Flo-Commander, billet stacks, HRC throttle; Hyperplates, FP detent arm, Jamie D shifter, 15/42 & 520 combo; radial MC & 98 900RR calipers, Galfer lines, HRC pads, lwt rr rotor; 900RR fork with Ohlins springs, custom Helis, RT GV kits (fr & rr), shock res (fully adj), 4 mm spacer, braced swingarm; Sargent seat, Mototeck u-tail, flush-mounts, PVM Mg rims, CnR levers, Vista cruise, bar-end mirrors...

07-24-2009, 03:24 AM	#17
Kelevra sold my vtr Squid Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 68	Vellly nice...

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