so, been looking at sharkskins, powerbronze, and pyramid lowers. just wondering if you guys had any info on any or all of these lowers. they easy to install? will they get damaged by the heat of the exhaust? are they all one piece? etc..

are there any other lowers you'd suggest? pics would be great!
preciate any tips or advice! :)

Im in the same boat as you.... did the research too...

Im a full fairing type person... so Im going with the Sharkskinz lower. To me... it follows the lines much better for a 'factory' look as the others look like an 'add-on'

my two cents...

Im in the same boat as you.... did the research too...

Im a full fairing type person... so Im going with the Sharkskinz lower. To me... it follows the lines much better for a 'factory' look as the others look like an 'add-on'

my two cents...

i feel if you want full fairings on the bike you need to go with mario nova's body work.. it's the only one i've seen that brings the lower closer to the front wheel. the rest of them just make it look like thr vtr has serious overbite.....

I would LOVE to get Mario's upper and lower... but I fear the price would drive my wife into a divorce... lol

The Sharkskinz look better than all the rest I hae seen... with exception to Mario's fairings of course...

mario nava's bodywork is SICK!!!! don't think santa can afford it though.

is it me or are the sharkskinz almost identical to the powerbronze ones?
the pyramid is beginning to grow on me, doesn't cover the engine as much though, but i think the lines match, IMO, whereas the powerbronze covers a lot more/so does the sharkskinz. . . just not too impressed with how they mate with the upper, the upper has sharp edges while the sharkskinz or powerbronze have too many curves. . . i'm being real picky now :wink:

so installation is a straight up bolt on, no issues with hot headers?
thanks for the replies thus far fellas. . .

I had a sharkskinz lower and hated the way it looked on the bike. The lower doesnt match the body lines of the hawk and just looks "stuck on".

I got a moriwaki lower thats all 1 piece that has the oil containment which alor of race organizations require and look 1000x better. It doesnt cover as much of the engine, but it not about the full fairing look, if that what your looking for, buy a RC-51.

Chris,

Can you post a few pics of the left and right sides if you got em?

Where did you get the Moriwaki lower?

thanks

I guess I need to see all the lowers on a SH first before I finalize my decision.....

I had a sharkskinz lower and hated the way it looked on the bike. The lower doesnt match the body lines of the hawk and just looks "stuck on".

I got a moriwaki lower thats all 1 piece that has the oil containment which alor of race organizations require and look 1000x better. It doesnt cover as much of the engine, but it not about the full fairing look, if that what your looking for, buy a RC-51.

yup, that's what i'm sayin . . .
so where'd you get the moriwakis from (japanese?) pics please!!

here's what i gathered from bikepics.com

Powerbronze (or are they sharkskinz? they look alike)

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/000809/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/020175/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/033166/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/219491/

Sharkskinz
http://www.sharkskinz.com/h/honda1070.htm

2wheeljunkie (sells both pyramids and powerbronze lowers, check out the double headlight replacements)
http://www.2wheeljunkie.com/store/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=9997

Pyramid

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/095999/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/322635/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/322636/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/318418/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/318433/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/045995/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/066775/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/083061/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/092374/
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/353642/

Other:

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/189478/

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/121733/

http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/128392/

i could be wrong, but i think this is the moriwaki style belly pan
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/171329/

(don't know how to post em)

Out of the ones you posted.... I like this one...

http://wwwsvc01.ninja.ev1.bikepics.net/pics/honda-vtr1000-98-bikepics-128392.jpg

the powerbronze looks identical to the Sharksinz to me...

I didn;t like the pyramid at first... its growing on me...

Out of the ones you posted.... I like this one...

http://wwwsvc01.ninja.ev1.bikepics.net/pics/honda-vtr1000-98-bikepics-128392.jpg

the powerbronze looks identical to the Sharksinz to me...

I didn;t like the pyramid at first... its growing on me...

you know you waaaaaaant it! :lol: think i'm leaning towards the pyramids as well. (thinkin of getting black lowers. . . i like the look of black lowers under the stock paint, or maybe i'll just color match the whole thing)

i think the one you like is form new zealand. . .
what's up with the powerbronze(France) sharkskinz(USA) thing?!! same or what?

hey mario nava, if you're watching, can you please make cheaper ones! i don't care if they're out of plywood or paper mache!! :lol:

I had a sharkskinz lower and hated the way it looked on the bike. The lower doesnt match the body lines of the hawk and just looks "stuck on".

I got a moriwaki lower thats all 1 piece that has the oil containment which alor of race organizations require and look 1000x better. It doesnt cover as much of the engine, but it not about the full fairing look, if that what your looking for, buy a RC-51.

ohh yeah! i forgot all about the moriwaki lower.. its awesome.... actually... the whole body work they have rocks, as we can see in your avatar. :)

The Mario stuff is $535. This includes to lower and upper. You cannot buy seperate as the lower will not fit a factory upper. This combo looks the best and 500 is not that much considering a sharkskins upper is like 352 and then you have to buy the lower which will put the price almost the same. As soon as I come up with the cash I'll by it......
DD

The Mario stuff is $535. This includes to lower and upper. You cannot buy seperate as the lower will not fit a factory upper. This combo looks the best and 500 is not that much considering a sharkskins upper is like 352 and then you have to buy the lower which will put the price almost the same. As soon as I come up with the cash I'll by it......
DD

535 US huh?! that's like one hundred trillion canadian dollars! :lol: (plus shipping, paint, ouch!!)

mario's a smart one, he could've easily made really nice lowers to mate with stock uppers (and done a better job than sharkskinz, pyramid, etc) . . . now he's got people pinned for both!!
now is that price for fibreglass bodywork? all the one's i've seen are all carbon fibre i think.
but dang do they look sweet!!!

here is a copy of the list he sent me



************************ VTR1000F parts price list ***********************

-------- PARTS ---------

HO-VTR97-CF-FI Honda VTR1000 1997-> Complete fairing EURO 445.00
Upper and lower fiberglass made

HO-VTR97-CF-FI-R Honda VTR1000 1997-> Complete fairing, race version. EURO 445.00
Upper and lower fiberglass made

HO-VTR97-CF-CK Honda VTR1000 1997-> Complete fairing EURO 505.00
Upper Fiberglass, lower fiberglass with carbon-kevlar
or carbon insert

HO-VTR97-CF-FK Honda VTR1000 1997-> Complete fairing EURO 1,100.00
Upper and lower full carbon or carbon-kevlar

HO-VTR97-CF-FK-R Honda VTR1000 1997-> Complete fairing, race version EURO 1,100.00
Upper and lower full carbon or carbon-kevlar

HO-VTR97-FF-FI Honda VTR1000 1997-> front fender EURO 65.00
Fiberglass made

HO-VTR97-FF-CK Honda VTR1000 1997-> front fender EURO 115.00
Carbon or carbon-kevlar made

HO-VTR97-RF-FI Honda VTR1000 1997-> rear hugger with chain guard EURO 115.00
Fiberglass made

HO-VTR97-RF-CK Honda VTR1000 1997-> rear hugger with chain guard EURO 180.00
Carbon or carbon-kevlar made

HO-VTR97-RT-FI Honda VTR1000 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 180.00
Street version (with place for stock rear light)
Fiberglass made with no seat and no removable panel

HO-VTR97-RT-FI-R Honda VTR1000 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 210.00
Race version (no place for rear light)
Fiberglass made with no seat and no removable panel

HO-VTR97-RT-CK Honda VTR1000 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 265.00
Street version (with place for stock rear light)
Fiberglass made with carbon or carbon-kevlar insert
with no seat and no removable panel

HO-VTR97-RT-CK-R Honda VTR1000 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 295.00
Race version (no place for rear light)
Fiberglass made with carbon or carbon-kevlar insert
with no seat and no removable panel

HO-VTR97-RT-FK Honda VTR1000 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 475.00
Street version (with place for stock rear light)
Full carbon or carbon-kevlar made
with no seat and no removable panel

HO-VTR97-RT-FK-R Honda VTR1000 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 505.00
Race version (no place for rear light)
Full carbon or carbon-kevlar made
with no seat and no removable panel


HO-VTR97-RT-SE Leather (synthetic) seat for rear tail EURO 45.00

HO-VTR97-RT-LO Removable panel with key lock for rear-tail EURO 40.00

HO-VTR97-ST-FI Honda VTR1000 1997-> Stock rear tail (double seat) EURO 120.00
Fiberglass made

HO-VTR97-SC-FI Honda VTR1000 1997-> Stock seat cover EURO 90.00
Fiberglass made

HO-VTR97-ST-CK Honda VTR1000 1997-> Stock rear tail (double seat) EURO 210.00
Full carbon or carbon-kevlar made

HO-VTR97-SC-CK Honda VTR1000 1997-> Stock seat cover EURO 115.00
Full carbon or carbon-kevlar made



----- ACCESSORIES ------

HO-VTR97-RT-ST VTR Racing custom stickers (couple) EURO 15.00
White-red, yellow-red or other combination

HO-VTR97-LF-ST Honda big sticker (couple) EURO 15.00
Metal or other available colour



----------------NOTES-----------------


- All prices in EURO.
- Prices may vary. Please ask for the latest price list when ordering.

- All products are built on demand.
- All parts are unpainted.
- Fairing comes already drilled with screws, nuts, fiber brackets, spacers and a mounting diagram with photos.
- Turn ligths are not included. Upper fairing has no pre-cut holes for turn ligths. Available upon request.

- Shipping: (the whole fairing fits into a 90x57x48 box)

Quick international postal service.
Prices vary depending on countries and areas. For USA and Canada, for example,
is about 160.00 EURO (delivery time approx 6 days). For Europe is about 100.00 EURO (delivery time approx 4 days).
Price includes handling and insurance.

- Payments:
PayPal or bank-to-bank money wiring.
We will give details of this bank account at order time.
All products are built on demand. We will start building parts only when confirmation of payment
will be received from our bank.

- Copyrights
Patent in process on all parts.
Commercial use of any picture or information is forbidden.



!!! IMPORTANT NOTE, READ CAREFULLY !!!

Though we assure best quality of material and building methods we do not assume any responsability
for any damage should happen using our products neither for local laws or warranty breaking.

My moriwaki lower

Where did you get it? I cannot find an online supplier!!

Help a bro out wil ya?!?!

BTW... I have been emailing back and forth with Mario.. GREAT GUY.

I think I am gonig to hold off and just save my money... I have learned that its better to wait and do it once than do it twice with twice the money....

yeah baby.... thats hot!

you can get the lower here (http://www.magicalracing.co.jp/)

DameDiggler, is that the price list for the new body work or the old one?

Thats the pricelist for the black VTR1000f

Here is the pricelist for the VTR1000R


************************ VTR1000R parts price list ***********************

-------- PARTS ---------

HO-VTR97R-CF-FI Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Complete fairing EURO 490.00
Upper and lower fiberglass made

HO-VTR97R-CF-FI-R Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Complete fairing, race version. EURO 490.00
Upper and lower fiberglass made

HO-VTR97R-CF-CK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Complete fairing EURO 560.00
Upper Fiberglass, lower fiberglass with carbon-kevlar
or carbon insert

HO-VTR97R-CF-FK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Complete fairing EURO 1,150.00
Upper and lower full carbon or carbon-kevlar

HO-VTR97R-CF-FK-R Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Complete fairing, race version EURO 1,150.00
Upper and lower full carbon or carbon-kevlar

HO-VTR97R-FF-FI Honda VTR1000R 1997-> front fender EURO 65.00
Fiberglass made

HO-VTR97R-FF-CK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> front fender EURO 115.00
Carbon or carbon-kevlar made

HO-VTR97R-RF-FI Honda VTR1000R 1997-> rear hugger with chain guard EURO 115.00
Fiberglass made

HO-VTR97R-RF-CK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> rear hugger with chain guard EURO 180.00
Carbon or carbon-kevlar made

HO-VTR97R-RT-FI Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 200.00
Street version fiberglass made with fiberglass
seat frame

HO-VTR97R-RT-CK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 300.00
Street version Fiberglass made with carbon or
carbon-kevlar insert with with fiberglass seat frame

HO-VTR97R-RT-FK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 500.00
Street version Full carbon or carbon-kevlar made
with with fiberglass seat frame

HO-VTR97R-RT-FK-R Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Rear tail (single seat) EURO 505.00
Race version (no place for rear light)
Full carbon or carbon-kevlar made
with with fiberglass seat frame

HO-VTR97R-UTU-FI Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Undertray (upper part) Euro 150,00
Fiberglass made.

HO-VTR97R-UTL-FI Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Undertray (lower part) Euro 110,00
Fiberglass made.

HO-VTR97R-UTU-CK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Undertray (upper part) Euro 220,00
Full Carbon o carbon-kevlar

HO-VTR97R-UTL-CK Honda VTR1000R 1997-> Undertray (lower part) Euro 170,00
Full Carbon o carbon-kevlar


Note about light units used:

Front unit comes from a Peogeot scooter. SpeedFight Silver Sport 50

Rear unit comes from a Yamaha R1 2005

These parts should be available at your local dealers.


----------------NOTES-----------------


- All prices in EURO.
- Prices may vary. Please ask for the latest price list when ordering.

- All products are built on demand.
- All parts are unpainted.
- Fairing comes already drilled with screws, nuts, fiber brackets, spacers and a mounting diagram with photos.
- Turn ligths are not included. Upper fairing has no pre-cut holes for turn ligths. Available upon request.

- Shipping: (the whole fairing fits into a 90x57x48 box)

Quick international postal service.
Prices vary depending on countries and areas. For USA and Canada, for example,
is about 160.00 EURO (delivery time approx 6 days). For Europe is about 100.00 EURO (delivery time approx 4 days).
Price includes handling and insurance.

- Payments:
We are not able, yet, to accept direct credit card payments.
You can use any form of payment which transfer the amount due to our bank account.
We will give details of this bank account at order time.
All products are built on demand. We will start building parts only when confirmation of payment
will be received from our bank.

- Copyrights
Patent in process on all parts.
Commercial use of any picture or information is forbidden.



!!! IMPORTANT NOTE, READ CAREFULLY !!!

Though we assure best quality of material and building methods we do not assume any responsability
for any damage should happen using our products neither for local laws or warranty breaking.

Hi guys. Just an observation, but a member on the uk/oz forum who has a powerbronze lower noticed it melting from close proximity to exhausts. :shock:
I have a pyramid lower which actually rests on the pipes but is fine. :D Possibly cos its made of fibreglass rather than plastic ? :roll:
Downside is that a couple of mounting points have slight starring/ cracking, and the edge is a bit too close to the sidestand and is easy to catch/ break when putting the stand down. :?
Thought i'd share this and maybe help you make your minds up ?
Stu.

saw this one one @ bike pics. nice lower.... not sure what brand it is.

Moriwaki, same as mine

Hi guys. Just an observation, but a member on the uk/oz forum who has a powerbronze lower noticed it melting from close proximity to exhausts. :shock:
I have a pyramid lower which actually rests on the pipes but is fine. :D Possibly cos its made of fibreglass rather than plastic ? :roll:
Downside is that a couple of mounting points have slight starring/ cracking, and the edge is a bit too close to the sidestand and is easy to catch/ break when putting the stand down. :?
Thought i'd share this and maybe help you make your minds up ?
Stu.

thanks stu!
this is exactly the kind of info i was looking for. had a good feeling that heat would be an issue. do you think the pyramid, actually resting on the pipes, over time or maybe after long hours sitting in traffic would eventually melt where it touches the pipe? anyone have this problem?
about starring/cracking, would it help if you put washers (or add extra) on either side, maybe soft rubber/plastic ones?

Sorry, when i said starring,etc i should also have said that you have to look real close to see it ! :D
It does have thin rubber washers on the mounts, i cant remember but i believe there are spacers the right thickness to stop you crushing the GRP. You would have to maybe make these slightly longer and possibly use thicker washers ?
Will have a look when i wash the bike later.
This lower has been on for two years and the only other problem is the stone chips on the front, which you'd get with any lower.
Also, make sure your exhaust clamp is rotated so it does not touch the lower. Obvious i know, but i did it and didnt notice for a few days !!!!! :roll:

good tips there stu! thanks again! i wouldn't have thought about the exhaust clamps. looks like i'm gonna go with the pyramids!
pardonne moi, but what is GRP? uk term? :oops:

Glass Reinforced Plastic. What do you call it ? :?


And i still have'nt washed the bike ! :roll:

Glass Reinforced Plastic. What do you call it ? :?

I have a pyramid lower which actually rests on the pipes but is fine. Possibly cos its made of fibreglass rather than plastic ?


And i still have'nt washed the bike ! :roll:

man, mine's dirty too!
uhmm, same term as fibreglass? thats what the pyramids are made off right? rather than plastic (or GRP?) which the powerbronze ones are made off?

can't get pyramids in the stock teal blue colour, think i might go for black and get a teal blue honda sticker along the bottom to "coordinate" :lol: , think that'll look aight!

I have been looking at a lower/belly pan too and found the Geelong Carbon Craft looks good. Is made of Carbon fibre and looks the best of the lot (IMO) http://www.geelongcarboncraft.com.au/

http://users.tpg.com.au/b_brand/myvtr2.JPG

(I have overlayed this from another bike onto mine... )

Mine is a powerbronze....bought it while I was stationed in England. It's a 2 piece unit that is plastic that looks carbon....as does my powerbronze hugger.

It has on opening there you can see the lower section of the hesder....I think sharkskinz are totally enclosed. Or is that Two Brothers?? Most of the sharkskinz/2 bros I've seen have heat damage in that area....even when sheilding is used. That was my main reason for going with the Powerbronze.

Mike

PS ....I'd post a pic but have no clue as how to.....LOL